| August 18 , 2000
Notes
This is the continuation of the session. Some conversation was lost as the tape reversed. Emissary seemed to pick up on this and checked to ensure the session was being recorded.
Session
Emissary:
… important to get this.
K:
Yeah. It reversed.
Emissary:
When your universe came into what you think of as existence, it happened everywhere at once - exactly the same as when the first distinction was made within the singularity. It was not well formed, it had no structure. It was simply an "emergence" into what you could think of as physical space. Physical space was created out of the urging, or the intent or the desire of the matrix itself to express itself into dimensions.
And the energy beings were part of that, so they have always been around. They did not begin with the Big Bang and so on.
Now, we have 15 billion years or so to cover within a very short period of time, so let us cut to something closer to "the chase."
When we speak of the creation of dimensional reality, it is not linear. It is not as though there really is 15 billion years of time to cover, do you see. We can focus on any part of it, and it will be exactly the same as focusing on any other part because there was still no calendar time. Time did not flow in the way that you are thinking of it, even within the physical creation. It did not, and in fact, it does not, even to what you think of as "today." Time is different. Time is basically the Creator's longing for itself and the movement of that search to incorporate the unknown into the known … that is time, that is time. And it is not linear.
So, when you reach the point of confusion about whether the energy beings were first or what we have spoken of in the past as the "first ones" came later, or where did the dinosaurs fit in, and what about the Earth's formation, and so on and so forth. You can say that it all happened at once and you can focus on any particular part of this flowing continuum, and apply to it your calendar time references. But what is difficult is in doing so, is that time, then, was stretchable. It was stretchable.
Your calendar time is marked clearly and discretely by the ticking of the clock. It has certain days, there are tomorrows and there are yesterdays, there are hours, you make appointments (which is a valuable function). But that calendar time did not apply even remotely to the timeframes that we are speaking of.
You had a question.
K:
I was just going to say that it is "rigid."
Emissary:
Yes, it is rigid.
K:
You can't really fit time into calendar time. It's almost ridiculous to try to put calendar time on top of flowing flexibleness of the continuum.
Emissary:
Yes. Calendar time is a construct. It is something that you do "to keep everything from happening at once." And to the extent that you are locked into the construct, then you are also locked into some interesting concepts, such as cause-and-effect. If you were to peel back calendar time, then the effects of cause-and-effect would vanish. There is no more that rigidness of time. Do you see?
K:
Intellectually, I can see it. But it is hard to get out of - very hard to get out of. Even when you think you are. I've had little glimpses of experiences where I think I have been out of calendar time, but I don't really know.
Emissary:
Yes. And all you are saying is exactly true. And as a good student, you are leading the teacher.
However, let us take, then, a different approach. Let us begin in the here-and-now, on this calendar date and move backward. You have now constructed for yourselves, and you have for thousands of years, calendar time. And it is at this point in your existence that Calendar Time permeates your experience. It is how you define your reality system, at least in, as you notice, your waking state - when you are conscious. Your consciousness is locked into Calendar Time, and that is how you have understood "time" for thousands of years.
What is happening, what you are seeing, is that you have come to the end of when Calendar Time is useful. Evidence is that the incorporating of the unknown into the known is happening at a pace that is challenging that rigid Calendar Time system. And so you think of things as happening faster and faster and faster. You think of things as being more and more difficult to incorporate into your understanding, because things are coming to you faster, and faster is, by definition, a part of calendar time. That is the extent to which it permeates everything within what you are experiencing as a reality system.
And it is not working any more. You are coming to the point at which Calendar Time is debilitating, and it will not continue.
Many in your timeframe are finding ways to extract themselves from the demands of Calendar Time. for example, there are many that are "self employed," simply because they do not wish to be dominated by the calendar. Although they cannot get out of it completely. There are still appointments. And appointments are not a bad thing. It is the insistence of creation now to put everything within the rigid structure that is the problem. That is why calendar time must end, and you are seeing its effects now, as the real time begins to "poke its head out" of the Calendar Time as it is breaking down.
You can think of it that way.
If we then look backward in your Calendar Time, then we see a clear progression of the comings and goings of cultures and societies, and so on. You can mark on your calendar when the Romans were here. You can mark on your calendar when the Babylonians, the Egyptians, and so on and so forth, and then you reach a point at which it is difficult to get a handle on where in your calendar time things were: the Pyramids, the Stonehenge and other circles, and so on, and so on, and so on.
The further you reach back into what you think of as antiquity, the more difficult it is to make a mark on the calendar. Because the Calendar Time, even then, was not as rigid as it is now. And that is why, as you look back, you cannot really "get" when things happen the further back in time you go. Part of the function, part of what made the Calendar Time be what it is today, is writing. And when one writes, in tablet or stone, it becomes then, "easy" to place that stone into the Calendar Time. It becomes a marker. But before there was writing, Calendar Time hardly existed at all.
Calendar time emerged from Time as a part of the original purpose to see what it is like to create a reality system that is dominated by dimensionality. Calendar time, you may think of it this way - calendar time is the epitome of the experiment of dimensionality. In one sense of the term.
K:
It's like an extreme dimensional…
Emissary:
Yes. It is an extreme dimension. It is an extreme dimension. And in a larger sense, energy beings are still playing with creating reality. And so, Calendar Time was something that was fun to play with, but has become too restrictive and therefore serves no purpose. And the energy beings will end it.
It is about time.
Continuing our look back, then, whenever we speak of "millions of years" in the past when we say the First Ones were here about 6 million years ago, and you say the dinosaurs were here 250 million years ago, or whenever, time was not quite so rigid. And even the artifacts left by your dinosaurs can play with you. Your first scientists found a way to "peg" the dinosaurs at a certain time, and ever since the scientists have been using the same structure as a way of trying to fit them within Calendar Time. It doesn't work. It makes a good story, but the dinosaurs could appear today, as well as then, except that you have so rigidly defined "time" within your Calendar Time system.
So, it becomes a practical impossiblity to experience dinosaurs within this timeframe.
K:
Yeah. It's misleading when you start throwing out numbers. Maybe more confusing the more one is in Calendar Time.
Emissary:
Yes, it will be confusing to those who see time in a "real" way to try to make sense of how Calendar Time fits with what we know of as more stretchable, more playful experience of time. That is part of the confusion; that is part of the experiment. And you are part of that experiment. Your struggles with time are part of the experiment of creating the dimensional space.
Also, look at it this way: you may find that there is some symmetry in those who put the beginning of humanness into a ct reference. There is a symmetry there. For example, your scientists would assert that humans or those who could be recognized as having human characteristics would be somewhere between 2 and 3 million years ago. Our suggestion is that it is more like 6 million years ago, using the same type of framework, and we would like to explore what that really was like at some point. You will also find those that say that humans and others came to your Earth 18 million years ago. And there are others who would insist that it was 54 million years, and so on and so on. There is symmetry there. How is 2 million related to 6 million related to 18 million related to 54 million?
K:
Multiples of 3.
Emissary:
It is actually threes. That is the symmetry.
K:
There is a mathematical progression there, trying to apply calendar time to the emergence of human life forms into the physical space. I would guess it is reflective of some kind of property of the matrix underneath it?
Emissary:
Yes. You may think of it as a "cosmic" number: three. You will find 3 repeating over and over again through many religions, through many ways of viewing reality, magics, and so on and so forth. Three, combinations of three and so on, have a what you could think of as a "magical connection" with the physical construction. You have "the godhead is three," and so on. And we can tell you that it is even greater than that. There is a dynamic from the very beginning, the Creator, its initial expansion into learning about itself literally was a "threesome," which is where many of your stories of the godhead being three comes from. It is a reflection of that. But perhaps that can be another time.
So. Barreling right ahead, we are nearing the end of our story - at least this part before we must take a break. A break will be good, but we need to go to the next step.
Now, we will switch again and stop looking backward into time, and turn again and look forward.
In the early stages of what you think of as the creation of your world, of your Earth, there was very little "time." Time, again, is a reflection of the known incorporating the unknown. The Earth was being formed from the desire of the matrix to create dimensionality. And the energy beings, being part of that construction, worked with not just your Earth, but with all of what you think of as physical reality within this three to eleven dimensional space, all at once. If you think of it the way the scientists might think of it, is that stars and planets and the dust and so on are developing through billions of years. The energy beings were playing with all of these things. The matrix of the universe "dreamed itself into existence;" it is "dreaming itself into existence." It can be thought of that way very easily.
So, the physical system, the universe, is being developed rather like soup being created.
Now, let us focus only on your Earth. Your Earth is based upon the matrix of Earth. You can think of the matrix of the Earth as being a representative of the matrix of all physical creation. It is the same thing, and yet it is separate. It has its own awareness. (Does this sound familiar?) It has its own intentions, within the intention of creating the dimensional space. That is an overriding point, an overriding assumption of all of your created physical existence - dimensionality.
You can think of it as the matrix of the Earth's "longing" for this that eventually became soil and water and air and so on and so forth. Making sense? And this Earth matrix has relationships with other created matrices scattered throughout your known universe - your physical universe, even if it is not known. There are unknown portions, as well - it is all a reflection.
So, this Earth created itself in pursuit of dimensionality. It created itself with certain ways of doing that, including, of course, gravity. Gravity is part of the dimensionality. To make a long story much shorter: earth, water, air, rocks, various kinds of things were created, played with, out of the matrix. And, of course, the energy beings are part of that. They are part of the matrix, they are part of the whole "playing with" the concept of dimensionality.
So, they were also instrumental in the experiment that you call life. To this point, we have been talking in terms of awareness. Life - as you are defining it in terms of respiration, beginnings, deaths, and so on - life is part of that dimensional experiment. and so, the matrix of the Earth and energy beings, through what you think of as time, basically played with different kinds of lifes. Not lives, but lifes.
And some lifes were very different than the lifes that you now experience in your daily affairs. Your scientists have, in some ways, been able to discern this. There are some kinds of lifes that exist in places that you would think of as totally uninhabitable. That is part of the early experiment with the matrix of the Earth. As life began to "emerge" within the matrix of the Earth. Different kinds of lifes were played with, different kind of atmospheres were played with, different kinds of support systems were played with; and so on and so on and so on.
Emissary:
So, as you think of this playful experimentation with lifes and creation within the dimensional system, if you think of those in terms of "time" - a flow of "time" - still not as rigid as your calendar time, then you can see that throughout what you think of as the "history" of your Earth, different kinds of lifes have been played with, and the records are there for you.
The records were placed there for you. Why? Because part of what you are here to do is to map the unknown. A way to practice that is to have a physical representation of the unknown. Do you see?
K:
That is what we find when we dig up these artifacts and bones.
Emissary:
Yes. To a large extent that is true. And they are [emphatically, slowly] a physical representation of the unknown. And that is very important and something that is missed quite often. They are a physical representation of the unknown. So, when you are looking backward in your time - and we are speaking only in terms of archaeological records, there are many ways in which this is also done in other arenas. When you are looking back in time at these artifacts, you are practicing exploring the unknown.
It is not like a school and then you graduate; you are living it. These individuals who are seeking "time" in that way are doing so very specifically. That is their orientation to the physical reality. That is what they are here to do, to explore the unknown in that way. They are telling you a story. That is part of why you are so interested in the idea of archaeology (K). It is for you a story of mapping the unknown, and you map the unknown in a very different way from that. That is because you are not so physically oriented. It is not your intent to do that.
And so, these individuals are not wasting their time. They are not wasting their time. They are telling you a story. They are spinning out a story, and if you watch them and you see what they are learning of the unknown, you will find that what you think of as your own structure, your own very rigid structure, begins to lose its rigidity because you recognize that everything is [emphatically] not what it seems. Do you see?
K:
It's another way to learn that aside from one's own personal exploration. Looking at what seems to be outside of myself. Get ideas, learn ways to do it, expand myself.
Emissary:
You are doing that anyway, and what it is doing for you is giving you a physical reference point to recognize that what you are doing is valid. And so, as they find new and different dinosaurs and as their timeframes are challenged by the new findings that they have and so on, and they find they have to go back to the beginning again and figure out how this all works, they are giving you a story. It is a physical representation of the struggle that you and others have in mapping the unknown in a different way altogether.
So, that is why or how some of the confusion happens in terms of who comes first, who comes last, who comes in the middle, and so on. Time is stretchable there.
Now, to the key point of 54 million years, and you may think of a degree of 3 higher than that, if you wish: 54 to 18 to 6 to 2 … do you see? Narrower and narrower and narrower. And what is happening, if you look at it from that perspective, in the creation, is that the intent of the energy beings to create this "thing" - this dimensional system - is becoming more and more and more narrow. It is getting closer and closer and closer to its intended point.
K:
The realization of the intent is reflected in the narrowing of the…
Emissary:
Of how you are viewing time as you look back and as you place it on your ct. Now, this does not mean that things are coming to an end, by any means. What it means is that the experiment is coming to a point - and ct, remember, is part of the experiment - at which it has become so narrowed that it is no longer functioning. It functions, but it is not functioning well.
And so, as the experiment further continues, then, there will be again an expansion. Because part of the experiment also is "what happens next?"
Physical reality will not be "destroyed." It will not lose its structure. It is founded on a living matrix. You can't go back. But you can change how it emerges into physical reality, do you see?
With that, let us take a brief pause and review where we are. We have covered a great deal of ground in many ways. When we return, perhaps you will have some thoughts or questions, or perhaps we will save some for next time. In the meantime, do take a break and we will be with you again shortly.
[Break]
Emissary:
Also, K, it is not unusual that this information would sound, would resonate with you, would sound like something you would recognize because this information is not a "secret," it is not held for the "special." It is that you lack reference points. So what we are doing with you - notice not for you but with you - is helping you to find a structure in which you can yourself can connect the dots.
We are telling you a very complete story of how the reality system emerge from the longing of the Creator to know itself and the progression of that and what it means, in terms a story. Now, there are many stories. There are many ways of examining and communicating this same kind of information. This is not the only one. It is important to understand this.
K:
Um. OK. I find it validating for my own self personally. It fits with my own inspirations. I've doubted myself quite a bit, so it is very validating. It seems like you are reminding me, though, that it is a metaphor, as well. And that there are others, but for now, I can play with this one.
Emissary:
Very well. It is a good story, because it leaves you with many "hooks" many places where you can hook into your own experience. As you, individually, explore your own unknown, what you will be doing is spinning out your own story. What we are doing in our discussion of time is simply giving you a reference point to help with some of the paradox that you and others inevitably will experience, because of the paradoxical nature of creation. Understanding that it is a paradox is important. It is, in some ways, the beginning of wisdom. Do you see?
K:
I know that and know more about it all the time. I can feel it. But when it comes to practical matters, it can be challenging.
Emissary:
Yes. It is important to keep the calendar because in your exploration of the unknown, where time does not have the same meaning, the same application, it becomes necessary and important to use Calendar Time in such a way that it keeps your connected to physical reality. When you are experiencing the unknown, you are by definition not in physical reality space. Do you see? And then your experience is non-linear and it can become disjointed from time, from reality. And so, keeping the calendar is a way of keeping yourself integrated into the reality of your existence - into the physical reality, you see?
So, we are not advocating throwing away the agendas by any means - at least not at this point. But we are pointing to a "time" that will be coming fairly soon, in which the rigidity of Calendar Time will be relaxed, or will go away. It will change … it will evolve, do you see?
We are pretty much brought up to date with our discussion of time and ct. Where this one and we began was in looking at the beginnings of what you can think of as magic. Looking at the First Ones and how they played with the physical reality in a no-time timeframe. That may be a direction that we may wish to move in the near future, simply because as ct begins to loose its hold, there need to be new tools - new ways of working with creation of reality that will be less confusing as you begin to directly face the implications of the paradox. And that can be the most challenging part of what is to come. The human beings that are locked into ct references - and this now includes all human beings to one extent or another - as human beings begin to adjust to the removal of ct from the construct, there need to be new ways for ego identities for those who have manifest in the physical reality to keep an equilibrium. The fear is (among many) that if ct disappears, then how are we to function? What can be done? What would it mean if I imagine myself being killed and instantly that happened? Is that possible? Is that an outcome? And so on and so forth. So there are many things that need to be adjusted among the manifest beings - humans in particular, because that is where you are most vulnerable - that looking at what it was like before ct can give us some clues as to what we can do when ct is not so important.
Remember that ct, like everything else, cannot simply go away. You can't get it back in the box. But its effects will diminish. This is what truly is meant by "the diminishing impact of cause and effect." That ct's grasp of the individual's experience will be more tentative, more tenuous.
Where we are going with all of this, as this one [Gerry] often wonders, has to do with providing tools.
K:
Some people around me right now find it really hard to believe that this is really going to happen. I think I know that it will happen; I'm just not sure how it's going to happen. Maybe it looks most rigid before it starts to loosen. I do often wonder how this is going to manifest. What are we going to do? [Comments lost in sound.]
Emissary:
And you will. Let us look very briefly, then, at the future. We have talked about time: no-time, the beginning of everything, creation of worlds, creation of the Earth, and so on. We have covered a great deal of distance, in terms of movement, but for a moment, let us look at the future, particularly in regard to potentialities for the lessening of the stranglehold of ct upon experience.
As you note, there are many who are alive and aware in this time that hold very strongly to the notions of ct. They can be think [thought] of as being trapped or you can think of them as being cocreators of it. It is not that they are being "held against their will." They are active participants in the process. And this is not a value judgment, in terms of whether they are enjoying themselves or not, that depends upon their own assessments. But there are many your time that hold fast to the notion of calendar time, as there are those who "wish it would go away" today.
Now. There is a clear similarity to the way that individuals work with the intents and the longings of the energy beings that we represent - and have yet to reach that point in our discussion, really. If you look at it this way: that one can be in alignment with the longing of the energy being for a certain goal (or longing is the better term) or not. Individuals can - the ego-identities can - decide, because they have free will, to turn and go a completely different way from the intention of the energy being. In the same way, the individuals living now have the same freedom to deal with ct. they may choose not to give up ct, and though the intent of the energy being is to expand and lessen ct's "stranglehold" (in quotes). They may choose to go a different way and continue to hold onto ct rigidly, if they choose. What that will mean, in terms of creation, is that the creation is reaching a point at which it can split. It is a clear point at which the reality system, which has for so long been held together (not bound, but cooperatively together by the notion of ct) will begin to diverge. They can diverge. And so, those that you see that are "tied to ct," will continue to be so, even though you may not. What does this mean?
What this means is, that over "time" - that is the flow of the unknown into the known - over "time" your realities will diverge to such an extent that you will no longer exist for each other in the same way. Now, each of you carries within you the projection of the other. And so, to some extent or another, these other individuals will still remain within your physical awareness, because they are projections. But then, over "time" you may find that they "move to another city."
K:
And one day they will go away.
Emissary:
Yes. They may "move to another city" or "another part of your town." This does not mean that they will die. Their reality becomes so separate from yours that not even their vibration of their history of you remains, except for what you think of as memory. And so you will no longer experience them.
So, you might watch these individuals - for fun; remember we are playing - and see how your relationship to them changes, how they look to you. Once vibrant, do they become less vibrant and more distracted or do they interact with you in a different way, and so on. If you watch that reflection, it may give you some ideas of how to gauge where they are in relationship to releasing their hold on time, and it will also give you a reference point at which you can also measure how ct is diminishing in importance for you. Does this make sense?
K:
I've seen that throughout my lifetime … reflections of others changes … but it is kind of a reference point [comments lost].
Emissary:
And so you will also find yourself coming more in touch with like minds. Remember, you are cooperating in the experiment with the energy beings, rather like their representative and then some. You are creating no-time also on a more daily basis, as you are. More of these individuals will come into your life as you restructure your awareness of your reality system - restructure literally the reality system you experience.
So, in our future, either together as a group or individually with this one [Gerry], we will explore issues of time and tools. In doing so, we will also expand the know into the unknown.
K:
We're still on the leading edge.
Emissary:
Their time is "not yet." And that is yet another important point: that events and people have "time." They have a time reference. That may be yet a further point of discussion.
If that is all there is for this day, we are very pleased to have been with you again, and we appreciate your taking your "time" to work with this one in fleshing out some of these "time" issues. Then, we wish you a good day until next "time."
[End of session]
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Transcripts
February 13, 2002
Experiencing Dimensionally
It is all one message, Cultural projections, the mixed blessings of dimensionality, an exercise in communication with Intelligence.
January 30, 2002
Presence, Authenticity
Part One | Part Two
This broad-ranging session covers many issues: Presence, enlightenment, meditation, sound and sounding. Inorganic Beings, non-ordinary reality, schizophrenia.
January 16, 2002
Healing the Future
Red Bear speaks in this session regarding Medicine People and healing, Healing The Future, "selecting one's tribe carefully," history and the Ancient Ones.
December 27, 2001
Other Realities
Inheritance of Fear, Dream Body, Energy body and shifting focus into other realities, Ecstatic body postures, Trance Dance, Allies and gods.
October 18, 2001
Happiness and "Longing" and
An Introduction to Allies
A wide ranging discussion that includes: fear • happiness • longing as a guide to fulfillment • "Allies," as described by Carlos Castaneda.
October 4, 2001
Healing
The nature of illness • illness, the energy body and projection into the physical • the dying as healers • the role of the healer as an instrument of Spirit.
September 20, 2001
Global Events, Choice, Spirituality,
September 11, 2001
This is the first session held after the WTC/Pentagon events. Global events • "Cliff Notes" version of Emissary's thoughts on existence • creation of experience
September 6, 2001
Consciousness, Awareness, Time
Druidic and Toltec Traditions
This session was held on the Thursday prior to the WTC/Pentagon events.
July 27, 2001
Time, Feeling and Imagination
More on Time vs. Calendar Time • imagination as movement of spirit • states of feeling.
August 24, 2000
Energy Beings
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An examination of the concept and nature of Energy Beings, of which we are projections and reflections.
August 18, 2000
Time
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An exploration of the beginning of Time from the "First Distinction" to the present • the nature of time • Calendar Time vs. Time.
October 12, 1999
Personal Session
Time-space states – death – "shamanic work" – reality and imagination as the creative end of perception – childlike maturity. With Kay Shinol.
August 4, 1999
Personal Session
Among the first sessions. Recorded before the solar eclipse. "Creating what you want – Revolution of consciousness – Being authentic" |