August 24, 2000

Notes
The session continues mid-sentence as the tape reverses.

Session

Emissary:
... because there is like a membrane through the matrix, into physical reality. There is a transition, in which the Energy Being finds itself at once, not only differentiated, but dimensionalized. When a human is thinking about Energy Being, and thinking how can I be a human and an Energy Being at once? This does not make sense. First, one comes before the other, and how do I get back, and so on.

It is difficult within this physical dimension to really get a grasp of the fact that the Energy Being is expressed into physical reality, and that is no different than the Energy Being being itself outside of physical reality.

KD:
So I could learn things about myself just by looking at my physical, because it is a reflection - not even a reflection - as the reality of my energy.

Emissary:
Your Energy Being is expressed into a physical body, and that physical body - the dimensions of it, the makeup of it, whether male or female, and so on - is part of the experiment of physicality. But it holds within it a reflection of the desire of the Energy Being for certain kinds of experience.

And there is one caveat to this. Once the Energy Being is expressed into physical reality, you see, you are created. And because of that, you have freedom. You have an infinite variety of freedoms to operate within the created physical reality arena. And so you can make any decisions that you wish. Someone who is created into physical reality to experience what it would be like to be rich and famous and beautiful, and have no cares, no problems, nothing of desire than cannot be fulfilled, can choose at some point to simply give it all away and become a pauper. It is possible.

KD:
Separate itself from the original … follow a different intent.

Emissary:
Yes, indeed. Not that it is disconnected from the Energy Being, by any means. Simply the intents are no longer in alignment. And so we do talk from time to time about the issue of aligning intents. This is not to say that the individual is not free, or should to this or that. It is, if the desire of the human being, the individual, is to be more connected with one's Energy Being, one's self, in a sense, then it behooves one to discover what the original intend of the self, the Energy Being, really is and to find ways to align with that. A great deal of power comes from this alignment.

KD:
So, the physical being decides to follow a different intent, for some space of existence, the Energy Being would try to pull it back or try to realign? Would it try to realign the physical being, influence them?

Emissary:
It is a logical question, but it does not work that way. The Energy Being basically does not care.

KD:
[Laughs]

Emissary:
Basically, the Energy Being does not care. This is part of why it is said, "You cannot do it wrong." There is no "right or wrong." From the perspective of the Energy Being, what it has done is it has created itself within physical reality, and has given itself freedom to experience whatever it wants to experience. And within that creativity it is a desire - an original intent, perhaps. But having done so, even though the created individual remains part of the Energy Being, the individual has complete freedom to make any decisions, any choices, that it (he or she, because at that point, it becomes "he" or "she") wishes, and that experience is still part of the Energy Being, do you see? It still feeds.

KD:
And expands …

Emissary:
Expands the knowledge and awareness of the Energy Being, no matter whether it is in alignment or not. And so, it is like giving birth to a child who grows up and doesn't become a banker like you wished, but does go off and have a wonderful life in Europe. Same thing.

So the Energy Being does not "urge" or "need" or whatever, but it does live in a state of joyfulness that is enhanced when its original intent is fulfilled by its creations.

Now, where this has taken us to directly, is that humans are direct reflections of energy beings. And so, you also have creativity within the physical dimension. You have children. One of the keys of expanding awareness is the creative function of having children. And the relationship that you have with your children are physical representations of relationships that can exist within the group, the community, of Energy Beings.

Everything is a reflection of everything else; everything is interrelated. And that is something that is very important to keep in mind when talking about spirituality.

KD:
And the difficulty in relating to one's children would be a reflection of the challenges of the Energy Being in relating to its creations.

Emissary:
Yes, the child does not become a banker as you wished. However, one difference is, because human beings exist within a very structured dimensionality, they also get stuck from time to time with the original desire. The child didn't become a banker, and it doesn't make any difference whether they are rich and famous in Europe, they did not become a banker.

Energy beings do not have this kind of dimensional thinking. They do not care. And so, there are humans who find it quite useful to love, but not care, do you see?

Letting one's children go, letting one's lovers go, letting go is part of coming more in alignment with the true nature of your energy being, the one that you are. And when we say "your," we do not mean possessive.

So, it seems that we have somewhat jumped ahead in our "course outline" into creation of physical reality, but it does make sense to look at it that way. Energy beings as a topic is very difficult to deal with by itself, because there are few reference points. It is good that we followed this line of discussion in our conversation that led us to talking about humanness. We thank you for your guidance.

KD:
It's an area of particular interest. "Letting go" seems to be my need sometimes, I don't know.

Emissary:
It is not exclusive to you. It is a good personal example, but it is not the only way in which humans are a reflection of the Energy Being that they are is expressed.

So this has taken us to a certain point in the dialog or discussion. Do you have any thoughts, questions or curiosities about that level of Energy Being? We may find ourselves referring back and learning more as we move forward in our discussions, if that is your desire.

KD:
When you say "that level of Energy Being," are you meaning that level of humanness?

Emissary:
Ah! No, we are speaking of if you have questions about Energy Beings, groups, frequencies, the universe of Energy Beings, of the limitlessness of Energy Beings. There is an issue, perhaps, of the power of Energy Beings, which is really the creativity of Energy Beings. There is much to be said.

KD:
What is coming to my mind now is that Energy Beings are a driving force of everything and then some.

Emissary:
You can think of them that way, and it does make some sense to do so, because Energy Beings were created by the Original One as the next quantum level of exploration. And so they can be thought of - as we were saying last time, you can think of creation as being linear or as expansion. At a certain point of the expansion, the Energy Beings became necessary. And so, at that "level" everything after Energy Beings is a result of Energy Beings. So, you can say they are responsible for, they are the cause of, everything that comes after them. They are directly responsible for the creation of your physical reality system. Which is not to say that the Original One is not! Do you see? They are all one and the same.

Good question. Do you have others?

KD:
I just keep seeing pictures of space, stars as Energy Beings. That the big bang is a reflection of the creation, the desire to know.

Emissary:
The only change we would make in the vision is that the Energy Beings would not be like individual stars suspended in space, but would be more like the very edge of the expansion of the universe - the dust, the "background radiation."

KD:
The dark matter.

Emissary:
There is much more to discuss in regard to "dark matter" issues, and what stars represent within this cosmology. Because, you see, your physical universe is an expression of the creation into physical reality. That is why your scientists think of the beginning of your universe as a "big bang." It can be seen that way.

Energy beings could also be compared to the dandilion, with the seeds on the outside. The interface of the plant with "what is out there," the difference being that it would be an infinitely large dandilion, with an infinite number of seeds.

KD:
The Original One would be the center.

Emissary:
Yes.

KD:
You mention the membrane as an interface between the Energy Being and physical expression. I know you are not meaning a physical membrane, but the interface between. So at that interface, we would be conceptuallizing birth and entry into what we know, the expression into physical reality and the question of birth, and also what we call the unconscious and that ego-identity leaves off and unconscious mind beyond. Would that also be part of that membrane? The space between the ego-identity and what I perceive what I perceive as the rest of my energy self that I'm not aware of?

Emissary:
You may think of them as analogous. There is a good deal to be said about the "unconscious" and what that is. The thumbnail sketch of what that is is that it is part of the structure of the "ego" or what we have talked about in past as "ego," meaning in our sense the same as what you are calling "ego-identity," is the interface with physical reality. What you think of as your consciousness is basically the screen upon which your "created self" interacts with physical reality. That is a very large topic that we wish to put "on hold" and come back to at another time. Is that agreeable?

But you can think of that interaction as also being analogous to what we are talking about in terms of expressing into physical reality. The Energy Being's expressing into physical reality. There are some similarities in structure, of course.

KD:
And the birth process. Is it different? Or is it different in the sense of differentiation?

Emissary:
The birth process is a metaphor for this transition. It is the way, the mechanism, in which the energy being comes into physical reality as a human. But that expression does not begin at the birth. It begins at many different in between and sometimes after. It depends.

KD:
And that reflects the desire of the Energy Being, how much… I'm sorry I'm not very focused in my question. So, for different Energy Beings, the growth of the physical being would be directed differently, depending upon the desires of the energy being and that would be reflected as perhaps one stage or at what point the energy being … it's physical body, and that would be different for different beings, whether it would be before birth or after birth, or any point in between, or even a dipping in and out?

Emissary:
Another interesting, but very long discussion about the mechanics of how the matrix transforms into the physical expression. Write that one down, it could be another interesting topic.

KD:
But not one where we would want to go today.

Emissary:
Yes. It

KD:
I'm having a hard time getting much further away from … for myself, keeping the discussion expanded out beyond the physical. I'm having a hard time. I can't think of any questions!

Emissary:
Perhaps that is because we have come to the end of our time this afternoon. We have covered a great deal of ground, and hopefully we have talked about Energy Beings in such a way that it begins to lay groundwork for even more detailed discussions, if we choose to move that way.

The end point of what we are wishing to do with this one [Gerry] and with you, is to provide for humans information and structure by which they can better understand "what is going on" (in quotes) in order to help them to prepare for a time when things change. Now, this change may be experienced within physical reality as the calendar time begins to fade in its importance. The change also, though, refers to the time in which an individual is faced with decisions in regard to spiritual issues. We speak of the aligning. And also change in regard to the end of one's life and what happens then.

So, while we are discussing things of "cosmic importance," and some minutia of process, the mechanics, what is always important to us is that the information is useful. If it is not useful, then we are all wasting our time, do you see?

KD:
So, preparation for changes … are working toward preparing for changes to come with time, with spiritual decisions, "do I want to align myself or not" and what flows out of that, and also what comes after death.

Emissary:
And issues surrounding death. The end of life, which is not the same as end of awareness. So, we have done quite a full afternoon and we have much more to do, if you choose to pursue these topics.

KD:
I would like to. I've made a few decisions in my life where I wonder whether I was aligning myself or misaligning myself? And of course death is always a popular topic for me.

Emissary:
Then perhaps you will take it up with our "calendar secretary" and continue.

KD:
Were there any other issues that Gerry wanted to address?

Emissary:
No. Not at this time. It has been good to be with you this afternoon. We hope that what we have shared has been of some value and understandable. We will see you again sometime in your future. Until then….

[End of session]

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