| July 27 , 2001
Notes
This session includes more focused work with two good friends identified as DB and KD. They have been part of the Emissary experience virtually from its beginning. We got together to return to some consistency in sessions after a very long hiatus. Emissary seems to pretty much pick up without much recognition of the lapse of time.
Session
Emissary:
Greetings. It is a nice energy state which you have set for this time. So, are there questions or thoughts or observations that you would like to make sure that we cover in our time together?
KD:
Recently read where time isn't constant, and also that the universe is speeding up in its expansion. I started thinking about time in relation to that and those two things are interrelated-the expansion of space and the way time changes over time. So I was wondering if you could speak about that.
Emissary:
Certainly. The door you have opened is to a large conversation. Let us begin by reminding you that time has little or nothing to do with your calendars. Time has its own flow, its own movement. Your calendar is fixed in a sense in that you have conveniently broken up your day, your weeks and your years and so on, into discreet units that you can use to better organize your experience. But this really has very little to do with time except to serve the purpose of organizing experience. Time is quite different from that. It is inconvenient that the word time is used in that way. There should be a different kind of word that would separate the two ideas and concepts. We have used the differentiating term "calendar time" to move in that direction. Think of it this way, that as your creations, as the universe, the creative universe, has continued its expansion. And we are not speaking of physical universe at this point, we are speaking of more the energetic universe. You may think of it as spiritual universe as you wish, but energetic is more precise. The energetic universe expanding from the origin of the first distinction into the beginnings and endings of the multi-verses through time as the creator or the one is incorporating the unknown into the known. That function is what creates what you are calling time in a sense of moving forward. There is a sense of moving forward through experience. So time is a side effect, a spin off, of the growing expansion of experience.
So in that sense, time does speed up and slow down. It has its own flow. As the universe of awareness expands then it expands at different rates and there is a sense, then, of slowing up, speeding down, and so on. That would be how you would experience time if you were perceiving it as an energetic level, not in terms of tickings of clocks, or vibrations of atoms, but of a flow of experience. More a flow of experience.
So as you are exploring (you being you individually, and you being all of you, and you being all of us as well), as we are exploring and learning and gaining experience and so on, we are creating time as we move. We are creating time as we move through experience. Do you have a question on this?
We are interested in moving at the right pace, not to leave you in the dust or to confuse you. It is an important concept for where we are going to answer your question. So we are creating time.
KD:
So we're creating a perception of time?
Emissary:
No. As you are moving forward in experience, it is not completely accurate to say that experience is moving through one. That would imply a separation, do you see? But as you are moving forward, riding the wave of awareness, you are creating experience. Does this formulation work for you?
And as you are creating experience, you are also creating time. Time is a by-product of the expansion of awareness.
KD:
Is time linked to experience?
Emissary:
Time is directly related to experience. Time is directly related to experience. It is not the perception of time. It is time itself. Because time is a spin-off of that. From one awareness state to another. From one awareness state to another, you are creating a wave. And that wave is time. By what we are trying to express to you. You see, that's where it becomes confusing. Time and the calendar are not the same thing. This time that we are talking about is more,… think of it as a ghost of your movement through experience. In your creation of experience, there is a here and a there in a linear way of thinking. And there is a certain wave form created by that movement. That wave form is what we are calling time. Think of it as a wake, or a ghost. All of these formulations work equally well.
DB:
Time seems to slow down to me and my experiences are fewer and then time seems to speed up and experience seems more frequent.
Emissary:
Yes, the more that happens the more it seems like time speeds up. In those times when nothing is happening, time can seem to take forever. It is exactly that way. So that is a wave of consciously relating to the issue of time. And if you are thinking of it that way and looking at the clock, the clock may not reflect how you feel in terms of how much time has passed in that sense. So that is a good example of the separation between the two. The clock ticks in its own pattern, and time as experienced is something else altogether.
So, as you are moving through your experiences and creating more awarenesses and experiences, you are creating time. Now, what does this have to do with the expansion and slowing down of your universe? We would say to you that your physicists are thinking of your expansion of your universe in a very linear way. Which, of course, makes a great deal of sense, depending on where you are. Considering where you are in your time and space construction. However, the universe will expand and expand and expand and it will continue to expand, because that is its nature. That does not mean that the universe will expand to its end and grow cold and fade away as they are thinking. It does not mean this at all. They are missing a very important part of the expansion of the universe, expansion of awareness. The universe is a projection of the expanding nature of awareness. What you see when you look into your heavens is the physical projection of the expansion of consciousness. And consciousness will never reach a point at which it grows cold and dies. There is always more at the edge.
Now, what is occurring among your physicists think tanks and so on, is that they are beginning to realize that there are places within your universe at which there are like many big bangs. There are places at which the universe is constantly renewing itself. They think of it as on the edges of the universe and sometimes in the center of the universe, and so on. But rarely next door. .. said jokingly. But on the edges. What this reflects is their growing awareness that the universe is constantly being reborn. The awareness is constantly being reborn. In each moment there is a new awareness, a new growing, a new explosion of awareness. Everywhere and at all times. It is a continuation of the original differentiation. It is an echo of the original differentiation, if you wish. And remember in a very real sense, all of this is happening at once. You are constantly reliving the original differentiation. And so you are constantly being renewed. You being you and all of you and us as well. We are constantly being renewed by this expansion. This is difficult, perhaps, to understand if you are thinking in only one dimension or two or three. But when you move into other dimension and you're able to see or understand or grasp the reality of this constant regeneration of awareness, then it becomes no more a mystery than how you drive your car.
So you have asked us what time is it? and we have given you how to build a watch.
DB:
It takes remembering on my part to step away from looking at the clock and think of it as experience. I've played with time some. If I'm late for something, I think of time slowing down and then it's as if a miracle occurs and I arrive at the correct clock tickings. It's as if somehow time really slows down. And then I play with time by going back and visiting myself as a young girl and as an adult, and as a wise person. Going back in time and comforting the suffering of the young girl.
Emissary:
Would you say that you are imagining these things?
DB:
That's the term that I use. I think but I think on some level it exists, but to me its in the level of imagination. Because that is unlimited. I can go back, forward, to other planets, so small that I can go inside my cells. But my body is not going there with me it is all within the constructs of my thinking and imagination.
Emissary:
Yes, imagination is an extremely powerful and valuable too. As you have probably heard, imagination is communication. Imagination is actually a little more than that. Imagination will be a vehicle for you, all of you, to move forward and backward in your experience, in your awareness. And we would say to you that when you see yourself, or imagine yourself to go back in time when you were younger and interact with that younger you, in a very real sense, that is precisely what you are doing. It only seems "imaginary" when you look at the experience in context of your three-dimensional time-based structure, your construct of your reality system. But we would say to you that using your imagination in this way is using your energy to actually go back in time. And when we say to you "go back" you must understand that there is no back, it is all in the now. So that you can go and communicate with yourself in the past and in the future. You can experience all of these things. When you think of space travel, you do not really need to construct missiles and space capsules and Enterprises, and so on to travel to other worlds. It is possible to go there in your imagination and the trip is as real as your imagination will allow it to be.
What you run into are the limitations placed on imagination by two things. One is your past experience as a physical being. And the other is some limitation in regard to how this physical construction has been assembled. Right now in this time your physical construction is too much with you. It is too solid. It was not so in the past. It was not so in the past. In what you think of as your pre-historic times. Those times before calendars. Such solidity was not an everyday limitation. And so your ancestors had the capability of using spirit to move across distances at their own desire. If they saw a star in the sky and they wondered what that is, they could go there. They could go there. They were not limited. And they did not have a construct called imagination to limit them. It was a direct knowing. It was a movement of spirit. What you would now call imagination, you see. You have labeled it and you have therefore sealed it with certain limitations presented by your physical reality system.
So you can think of imagination as fantasy. Or you can think of imagination as movement of spirit.
DB:
I love that "movement of spirit."
Emissary:
And from your stories, do you see, it is quite reasonable that when you go back and visit your earlier self, and you use your wisdom to communicate with this earlier self. What would happen? A loop. This earlier self then becomes a little wiser which affects its future which affects its future future and so on, right to you. And so you are growing yourself by replanting and taking care of the earlier you. In a cycle. And when you go into your future, what are you doing then?
DB:
When I go into my future I'm leaving surprise gifts for the future me. Of encouragement, appreciation and value.
Emissary:
And you have been doing this for how long?
DB:
For 2-3 years in calendar time. I've been having conversations with my future self for a long time.
KD:
Have you found any of your surprises yet?
DB:
Things seem to magically happen and I don't know why.
Emissary:
Do you know of others who are so enlightened in using their energy bodies in this way?
DB:
I thought everyone did.
Emissary:
Yes, it is interesting. It is actually quite fascinating because you are thinking of this in a time-based fashion. We would say to you that you have been practicing this for not a few years, but a few of your generations.
DB:
Sometimes it has been generational. Sometimes I go back and think of my great- great- grandmother and live in that space for a while.
Emissary:
Yes, for generations. This is a gift brought to you. This knowledge, this way of assembling, is a gift brought to you through generations. Not only generations in a genetic sense, but generations in a spiritual sense as well. And we would say to you also, K, that the very thought that you would like to have this done, or perhaps you have done it and just not known about it, points to the fact that indeed you have already done some of this work. You have either not recognized it or you have forgotten, or perhaps it was done in a different state of awareness. Now moving to doing this consciously brings a whole different level to the exercise.
So, in your experience, Donna, what you are seeing if you think of it this way, starting in the center and moving out in larger and larger loops. And once you begin the spiral outward you begin to make connections not only with selves of this time space, or selves of nearby time space, but you expand outward into other relationships with alternative types of existences in all different directions. Once you begin to do this with awareness, you can imagine what you are doing in the unconscious realms.
DB:
So once it's up to the conscious level then I know that it is more deeply rooted in the unconscious.
Emissary:
Yes, indeed. And remember to, that your experience -your conscious experience-feeds the other. It's like rolling the hoop. So the hoop is rolling and you're running beside with the stick and just moving forward, forward, forward, faster, faster, faster. More, more, more. And the loop gets bigger. Pushing the rock as it falls down the hill. Even if you stop pushing, the rock would continue.
So it's really quite an ingenious way you have approached your what you think of as spiritual growth. Actually, growing your awareness. In some stage of your existence you might have thought of where you are now as being an experience of future self. Someone you are not capable of being in this time space and yet, what has occurred?
DB:
Yes, I can remember thinking that.
Emissary:
Yes, that you would have to die and reincarnate and go through several lifetimes. Not so. Not so. It's a matter of beginning. It is a matter of beginning. Once begun the cycle moves forward. Now you can, of course…we do not know why you would do this, but it does seem to happen…. that you can at any point choose to jump off the ride and begin your experience in a different way. It is a matter of freedom of choice. And individuals do from time to time reach a state of this kind of accelerated growth, and we are not using that term as a better/worse type of evaluation, accelerated in a sense of moving more quickly. May reach a point in this acceleration where they become uncomfortable, because this kind of growth will necessitate change. It will necessitate change. In some sense the type of growth that happens will move you out of the vibration of your experience into a different level-and we are not saying higher or lower or any of those things-but a different level of vibration. And so you literally will move out and change your experience. At this point, some individuals become uncomfortable and disengage. Do you see? It does not mean their spirit doesn't continue, but their awareness disengages and the spirit moves on. The consciousness continues to grow at a perhaps more comfortable rate.
Emissary:
This also can occur from time to time to the extent that the individual can become, can get to a certain place and decide that this is quite as much as this physical form can handle and will then abandon the form-that term, abandon the form-to move the vibration to a different level. You have many experiences of this in your culture. And there are many implications and ramifications of that kind of change. But for the most part you are here to experience change and for the most part, you are set up to grow in a speed or with a sense of change that is comfortable for the body, the entity, the ego for lack of a better term, the self. And so this change can be moderated. This happens most frequently in your experience.
It is not to say it will always be this way because you are beginning a new era, do you see? As calendar time, as your thinking about calendar time begins to less and less dominate your sense of the flow of time, as it begins to be peeled back, then your sense of the flow of time can flow more freely. And your experiences then will accelerate. That is what is exciting about your future. And that is what is exciting to being uncomfortable to those who are so attached to the calendar structure. That will be the nature of the next change for you as energy beings.
Exciting times, no?
DB:
Yes, like surfing. Riding the wave of balance. Keeps one on one's toes.
Emissary:
Yes, "hang 10." Yes, you can always heighten the excitement or you can, of course, clutch the board and let the wave carry you. It is a matter of choice.
DB:
Are the feeling states … is this an underlying matrix foundation and the experience is on top of that and the time is related to the experience and it rides on top of this underlying feel state? Or does the feeling state move the experience? I know I'm looking at layers here, but there seems to be whatever goes on on a conscious level seems to be an underlying feeling state. Sometimes I can get my consciousness quiet enough to touch that state. And other times I'm not conscious of it.
Emissary:
It is all related. Different ways of looking at things. The feeling state that you seem to be addressing, there are actually more than one. And if we think of it in terms of layers, the analogy does work fairly well. Think of you, yourself, as an expression into physical reality of a particular vibration, a frequency. And this frequency carries with it into physical reality a sense of a tone. And that tone can be experienced as a feeling state in what we believe is your language. A feeling state. Now this tone has more than just feeling. This tone is again an expression into physical reality of that vibration which is you. And that tone has a sound quality. It has a color quality. It has a feeling quality. And it also has that sense of being-feeling quality. So you are in a sense in thinking this way, you are dipping into, or becoming more in touch with that feeling, that frequency that you are. So when you get closer to it, in a sense of moving out of the grosser level of creation into the finer and more subtle, then you become more aware of that vibration which is the you of you. And that is a feeling state. Now, your feeling state also rides upon another feeling state which is a more subtle layer or level of vibration. And that vibration is the earth.
DB:
Oh…..sometimes when I do qigong I feel a subtle feeling in my body that I think of as the earth.
Emissary:
All of you, and to some extent we would include ourselves, all of us, then, because of our connection with this living being which is the earth, has just underneath, just beneath our own feeling tones, the feeling tone of the earth itself, which is what helps to ground us into an even deeper connection with spirit. And so in our earlier discussion of matrix, spirit moves upward. And we are thinking in terms of levels again, forgive us. But spirit moves upward into intersection with the physical reality and the first step in this is the creation of a matrix in which spirit can convert itself into an energy which vibrates in a physical reality state. And above that matrix is the where you live, in terms of 3-dimensional space. Earth.
This is not true for individuals who are living on other planets. They have a different feeling tone. That is why you would perceive them as being different if you perceive them at all. And so, their underlying matrix, or feeling tone is different. And their frequency, then, is somewhat different because it is based on a different feeling tone. So again, you would be different. You can also think of it as different dimensions, we simply chose other planet. It is the same thing. And so in order to perceive someone from a different dimension there would have to be a point of intersection. A point at which the vibrations resonate. And this happens from time to time depending on the energetic nature of the two universes. They may handshake or they may not. And when they do handshake then to some extent you can perceive them. To some extent. But they would still be of a different vibration which is why you don't perceive them quite what you think of as reliably. So there is much physics/mechanics that goes into this. But we perceive that is not a direction we wish to go.
So in response, getting back, that is one of the reasons why it is so important for us to become connected with that deeper vibration which is the earth. It is the foundation of our very existence. It is the foundation of our very existence.
Now, do not mistake what we are calling the vibration of the earth as being the physical expression of that vibration. Because that will lead you to begin to worry about whether or not the earth will be destroyed, or whatever. We are here to tell you that the power of the vibration of that level is such that your earth would not be destroyed.
DB:
I've always had this feeling that the earth is sentient and knows how to take care of itself.
Emissary:
Of course. Certainly. It is alive and it is aware. It is alive and it is aware. There is no doubt of this.
DB:
So I can go out and talk to trees and talk about history and talk to water, …
Emissary:
Yes, do not confuse the creatures that exist on the earth as being the earth itself. A tree is a little different from you, but it has its own vibration. It is connected to the earth. Now, if you wish to connect to the vibration of the earth you cannot do it by going and talking to trees or even digging a hole. You must do it in a much more subtle way and the way to the earth is through you.
DB:
On a more subtle level of the feeling state I perceive. Underneath that. And as I relax more and go the feeling state that I like to go to then I'll naturally get to the feeling state below that.
Emissary:
Yes. The way to commune with the earth is to commune with yourself. You are a doorway. You are a doorway. You are a doorway. We are a doorway. And the earth is also a doorway into what we are constructing as a deeper level. It is not quite an onion, but it can appear that way.
KD:
In my garden, when I'm with nature, is that closer to the vibration of earth? Or is it just the plant and the trees? I'm not able to make that distinction.
Emissary:
What we would say to you in particular, is that when you because of your affinity for earth and trees, that natural arena. When you are in that setting, you become more in touch with the vibration of who you are. That is one of your ways of becoming more aware of your frequency, your vibration. And the feeling state that you can find yourself in and experiencing, is more the you. Just beyond that, when you become very comfortable with and able to move into that level, then what you will experience is something different, something more subtle. And we are saying to you that at that point it would be more contact with the energy state we are calling the earth.
Other thoughts?
KD:
We've talked about duality. Duality being part of the fabric of this reality. And I was thinking about how the physical body reflects that duality and some problems that I've been having. I've been expressing that duality within my physical body… especially on the left side. I'd like to integrate that more.
Emissary:
Are these physical sensations or are they something different?
KD:
I believe they are reflections of something non-physical, but they are having physical manifestations.
Emissary:
So these are not new?
KD:
Well, the most recent one is new. I've had a lot of problems on the left side of my head.
Emissary:
Yes, this one [Gerry] can relate. He tends to have his physical discomforts and experiences on the left side of his body as well. So what does this have to do with anything, one might ask?
KD:
Well, I don't know.
Emissary:
It has a great deal to do with the topic at hand and also a different aspect of duality. When we are speaking of duality we are sometimes speaking of good and bad, up and down, and male and female and so on. But there is a duality built in to the experience of the spirit in this particular time space state. And it is described in a number of different ways by different cultures but it is fairly consistent in the sense that individuals and indeed, energetic beings in general, seem to be divided in two pieces. They have been assigned left and right. And indeed, your physical structure is designed in such a way that your brain's operations and functions are divided into left and right hemispheres. And so the energy construct of the left and right sided nature of the energy being is expressed in the physical body in such a way that you find yourself either left or right handed. You find yourself as one part of the brain being more analytically involved while the other part of the brain is more creative, and so on. You are aware of this arrangement?
So it would not be then unusual to think of the body as being a reflection of that underlying energy wave which is the expression of the energy being into the physical duality arrangement. Now, having gone through that, speaking generally the right side you can think of as being ordinary reality. Things that you see. Things that you experience. Your awareness and so on you can think of being right-side awareness. You are familiar with this term, we are sure. Yes. And then there is left-side awareness. What is left-side awareness?
KD:
The spiritual, the subconscious.
Emissary:
We would take it a step further and say that it is not subconscious because in a sense subconscious is part of the right side, that is part of the known. The left side awareness is, you can think of it as non-ordinary. Or the unknown. The unknown. And so often when individuals are very strongly right-sided and become out of balance from right to left side, experience will sometimes show up in the left side of the body as little explosions, little awarenesses. We do not want to use the term explosions as it is too volatile. But certainly, when there is something in the left side that needs to be attended to or is expressing itself into physical reality, it will show up in the left side of the body. Sometimes painfully. Sometimes in just a difference in the structure. And there is much to say about that. However, to make a very long story relatively short, when you are experiencing something in the left side of the body, what you are experiencing has to do with healing. It is as though something held tightly in the left side is released. And in the release it shows up in the physical. Healing comes from outside in. Healing comes from outside in. If you think of the energy body as being outside. Not healing coming from another person to one. But healing the energy body comes first.
KD:
The energy body into the physical?
Emissary:
Yes, in a sense. So it is valid when you are feeling something pains you, to say, "Ah, that's good. I am healing." Not, "Oh, I broke my leg." So what we would say to you is certainly take care of the physical body. The physical body has certain aspects that need to be treated in a physical way. Physicians do have their place Find one who is more energetically aware if you can. But physicians do have their place in the healing of various body parts. They are encouraging the healing, not necessarily fixing it. Be aware that whatever you experience as illness in the body is really a reflection of healing from the outside. Now what is interesting to do if you can, is to move into…move your awareness into the left side in some way or another to identify what it is that is being released. Does this make sense?
KD:
Yes
Emissary:
And by doing that and bringing that into your consciousness, you empower your consciousness to learn, to experience more. And you are then, of course, moving forward in time by expanding your awareness and your intelligence. You're bringing the unknown into the known. It is all related.
So, there are many ways to move your awareness into the left side to discover what it is that is being released. And we have talked about today use of imagination so that you can move your spirit into that space and have a conversation if you wish or perhaps just a feeling of what it is. You can enhance that perception sometimes through what this one is experimenting with at present, trance dance. That is a doorway into the left side as well. This one is also experimenting with drumming, another way. Or you could just breathe. When you breathe, you are opening a door to the unknown. When you are breathing and you're breathing with awareness, you are bringing your awareness into the present moment. And the present is the doorway. The present is the doorway. You cannot go to the left-side awareness tomorrow or 2 minutes from now. It has to be done in the present. And breathing brings you there. Does this help?
KD:
Yes. It is helping me now. It is an emotional things.
Emissary:
A happy emotional thing?
KD:
No.
Emissary:
Yes, happy emotional things tend to be experienced in the body differently than pain.
DB:
I have to leave to go teach a yoga class. Thank you.
Emissary:
Yes, you are quite welcome. Expand yourself into your class.
[Session continues with personal information for KD, ending in only a few minutes]
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The following are recordings from group sessions. Size and length in minutes and seconds is noted. All are MP3.
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Transcripts
February 13, 2002
Experiencing Dimensionally
It is all one message, Cultural projections, the mixed blessings of dimensionality, an exercise in communication with Intelligence.
January 30, 2002
Presence, Authenticity
Part One | Part Two
This broad-ranging session covers many issues: Presence, enlightenment, meditation, sound and sounding. Inorganic Beings, non-ordinary reality, schizophrenia.
January 16, 2002
Healing the Future
Red Bear speaks in this session regarding Medicine People and healing, Healing The Future, "selecting one's tribe carefully," history and the Ancient Ones.
December 27, 2001
Other Realities
Inheritance of Fear, Dream Body, Energy body and shifting focus into other realities, Ecstatic body postures, Trance Dance, Allies and gods.
October 18, 2001
Happiness and "Longing" and
An Introduction to Allies
A wide ranging discussion that includes: fear • happiness • longing as a guide to fulfillment • "Allies," as described by Carlos Castaneda.
October 4, 2001
Healing
The nature of illness • illness, the energy body and projection into the physical • the dying as healers • the role of the healer as an instrument of Spirit.
September 20, 2001
Global Events, Choice, Spirituality,
September 11, 2001
This is the first session held after the WTC/Pentagon events. Global events • "Cliff Notes" version of Emissary's thoughts on existence • creation of experience
September 6, 2001
Consciousness, Awareness, Time
Druidic and Toltec Traditions
This session was held on the Thursday prior to the WTC/Pentagon events.
July 27, 2001
Time, Feeling and Imagination
More on Time vs. Calendar Time • imagination as movement of spirit • states of feeling.
August 24, 2000
Energy Beings
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An examination of the concept and nature of Energy Beings, of which we are projections and reflections.
August 18, 2000
Time
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An exploration of the beginning of Time from the "First Distinction" to the present • the nature of time • Calendar Time vs. Time.
October 12, 1999
Personal Session
Time-space states – death – "shamanic work" – reality and imagination as the creative end of perception – childlike maturity. With Kay Shinol.
August 4, 1999
Personal Session
Among the first sessions. Recorded before the solar eclipse. "Creating what you want – Revolution of consciousness – Being authentic" |