Notes
This was a wide-ranging session that dealt with fear, happiness and the longing toward fulfillment. Also: living within the metaphor of the "warriror," as well as the beginning of a discussion about "allies" (from the Carlos Casteneda works on Toltec teachings and experiences with Don Juan) – what they are and how they are related to the myriad "gods" found in many cultures. This brief discussion appears to be a prologue to a longer future discussion of that topic.
     Prior to beginning, the group could not identify specific items to discuss, so decided just to begin and see where the flow took the dialog. Such beginnings often lead to interesting, but sometimes disjointed discussions.

Session

Emissary:
Good morning. Greetings. So, we understand that there are no further questions that enlightenment has settled upon the group.

[Laughter]

We would like to check anyway, just in case you may have thought of an issue or topic of interest.

KD:
I noticed the crows flying. They were with us last time.

Emissary:
Yes. The crow spirit friends do rather enjoy this particular area, this part of the environment. And so they are quite frequently with those who inhabit this area. Not specifically for this one, although we can share with you that his call, the call of the crow, did attract the attention of this one as well and he has gone flying with the crows for a while. So there is ancillary purpose to that particular sound.

DB:
I noticed the chime more strongly than I had previously. It seemed to have an immediate gross impact, and then a more fine, subtle impact.

Emissary:
Yes.

Have you been practicing, KD?

KD:
Playing the chime? I did think about it when I was ringing it. I like to be clear as I'm doing that.

Emissary:
And so your intention to be clear clarified the act and the sound itself. It was an interaction between your intention and the chime. It was a cooperative event. And it created a nice clear and clearing ringing sound. Rather like when one lights a candle if one thinks of lighting the candle from the heart, then it has an intention of clarity as well. So whatever you do in your life, in your living, if you do it with an intention for clarity it brings a certain quality to the action no matter what that action might be. So we leave you with that thought in regard to the ritual of ringing the chime…and ringing your own chime as well.

Previously we were looking at other possible personalities, were we not? And where would you like for our experience this afternoon to take us?

DB:
We talked previously about Orin having things to say to KD. I don't know if that would be appropriate in a group setting. We also wanted to explore some of the different things that Red Bear has to share of his wisdom. Then there were other energies or personalities also available that Gerry has not yet experimented with and we wanted to provide an opportunity for those also. Of all that, do you have a take, KD?

KD:
No, I don't. I'm a generalist.

Emissary:
We would share with you that this one is not yet ready to launch beyond the Red Bear and the Orin personalities at this time. More needs to be explored in your terms with both in order to set up the next level. So if we were to have our druthers in regard to next steps for this one, then we would suggest further exploring either Red Bear or Orin. We would suggest that if you wished to communicate with Orin, it would have to be clear that Orin would need to speak not only to the KD, but to the group. Without KD's permission, Orin, being who and what he is, may or may not keep to more general topics. He has his own way of thinking about things. But given that, if it were KD's choice to go that route, then, of course that is possible. It is pretty much up to what you as a group wish to do.

It is not so much that we may have an agenda or a table of contents for the interaction with this group, or specifically a lesson plan for this one. There is plenty of time for everything. There is an overlap of experiences due to the nature of time itself. So it does not matter to us what topics you wish. It is not seen as our particular role to create the agenda. We are willing to go with anything that you, as a group, or we, as a group, decide would be of interest.

DB:
We had talked about pursuing the shadow or the allies was where we left on last talk. Then we had an explanation of the Toltecs, the more masculine path, and the yoga or more feminine path, and the separation of those two.

KD:
I don't understand Allies which is why I had asked a question.

DB:
And Red Bear talked about the medicine wheel and the different keepers of spirit, for example, the south. Is that allies?

Emissary:
No, not the same topic.

KD:
Allies to me are energy essences. When they enter into an agreement it is a give-and-take energy exchange. They are not necessarily very nice, but there is a give and take, an exchange. And if one should enter into an agreement like that there are benefits and there are risks. My confusion was in that the reading I've done offered one point of view based on a fear platform. And I never really understood whether the fear came because of the focus of the individual who was writing about it, or was part of the nature of the allies, if the fear aspect is inherent to the allies themselves. Then on the other hand we've been told that the fear comes from ourselves and that nothing can really hurt us. So I've come to the conclusion that it was my own fear I've been looking out.

Emissary:
It would certainly be interesting to the group. So at a mental and intellectual level, that could be interesting. There is not much cross-over between the discussion of allies and so on, and the other discussion about the more feminine approach. It has to do with the intention, how these powers were identified and developed over time. We had talked about the Druidic and Toltec being more, for lack of a better term, masculine, or more aggressive, or darker, if you choose these kinds of terms, and the feminine being more receptive and open and more light. And so the way that each of these were pursued throughout what you think of as your history provides a certain spin to the results. We would tell you briefly that the interest in what you are calling allies does have a very powerful and direct potential in addressing many of the concerns of your developing, your spiritual awareness of what is going on in the universe, or in your perception of creation of the universe. There are many things that can be done once one begins to understand better and link to the idea of what you are calling allies. And so for that reason, it is a rather large discussion that might take more than one or two of your hours.

On the other hand, the discussion of the more Eastern, the more feminine in those terms, spirituality also is another longer discussion. And actually has more to do, more connection perhaps, with the Red Bear personality. So you may think of it as Red Bear and Orin. Now this is an artificial separation, you understand, but their personalities, the way that they are developing in the experience …(we were thinking menagerie, but this may not be appropriate)… in the experience of this one is following along the same sort of division in the experience or understanding of this one. And so this is why these two are now more to the fore. So more needs to be done on both in order to move on to the next level.

To our other point in terms of group dynamic. The way that the group works well in this setting is that if you find something in our discussion or in your excellent recap of our previous experiences together, if there is something there that sparks your interest, then that spark in itself begins to generate substantial energy which then feeds into the whole experience. If we are not certain, the energy of the group is somewhat low. And it is a little more difficult to make the connections. So we are speaking to you now of this. This is not always going to be the case, particularly if this one continues to connect on a regular basis with us and begins to generate his own energies. So at this point, in this one's development, it is good to generate interest from topics and so on, to create an energy wave that can be used to further explore. That is the way that it works now. Your experience with the Peter is somewhat different. The connection between the Peter and Kay has been developed quite fully and therefore the generation of the energy is more consistent and more -for lack of a better term-experienced. So there is a difference. Does this make sense?

KD:
Yes.

DB:
Part of being topic-less is because it seems like when I started my spiritual searching I wanted answers like "What was I here for and which is the right way to express it?" And now, it's like there is no right, there is no wrong, it doesn't really matter what you do. You could be a bank robber and if you had clear intention and integrity… it just like everything is ok and there doesn't seem to be a direct path. It seems like fumbling around is the "right" way to do it.

[laughter]

Emissary:
Yes, so the pressure is off.

KD:
Yesterday I came to the conclusion that I needed to give up again. Just give up and let it go. Which is kind of the same thing.

Emissary:
And yet, would you say that your life is somewhat happier than it used to be?

KD:
Yes.

Emissary:
And also you, DB?

DB:
Definitely happier. I guess the whole thing about giving up is that I feel a little disappointed…like it would have been nice to have a mission, but yet it doesn't seem to be that way. So if there is impact that I have, it is in little pieces here and there and mostly unbeknownst to me. That's ok, but it's a little disappointing.

Emissary:
Ok, but disappointing?

DB:
Yeah. I can live with it.

KD:
Yeah, I better learn to live with it because the big thing doesn't seem like it's going to happen for whatever reason. For some time in my life I felt like there would be a big thing for me and I would be finding my path and having some kind of complete relationship with my husband, or something. I guess if anything, the big thing is in all the little things. There is no one big thing that my life is going to be. So I feel like I better just give up because I've been trying so hard. And I get in my own way because I'm trying too hard. I think the efforts of trying so hard get in the way.

Emissary:
Perhaps the big thing would be experiencing a happy and fulfilling life.

KD:
Yes. They all add up to that. Maybe when I look back I'll see that it was the big thing.

Emissary:
In retrospect, it was good.

[laughter]

DB:
As I study yoga they talk about how you have big enlightenments and they even have it in levels. First level of samadhi are little moments of bliss. And then there's an opening in the top of the head and honey pouring over the head. And then there is seeing the blue flame and the manifestation of a god. So those seem like big things.

KD:
Yes, that's what I mean about giving up and accepting the little moments and having that be enough in that moment. Instead of saying, "This is just a little bliss. I want a big one!!"

DB:
Don't we sound like a bunch of whiners?

KD:
Yes, it's good, but it's not "good enough." I guess that's a judgment. I'd like to get rid of that and be more accepting of the little moments. One thing I've found is that some people say, "It was SOOO Wonderful, and it was SO GREAT!!" And I'll say, "Well, I was there and it wasn't that great." But that's just the way she interprets things, and she's dramatic and strong.

DB:
I wonder if that means she has more heightened feelings?

KD:
I don't know. I feel like I do have a lot of heightened feelings about things like that, but when I'm expressing them, I'm not so dramatic.

Emissary:
Yes, there is a long history in that tradition of identifying, as we have spoken before, of developing levels. Rather like a shell around the central core. And so what they are describing in a certain sense, would be the experience of getting closer and closer and closer to the core itself. And the idea is that as you get closer and closer, then you have more and more gratifying experiences. So this is rather interesting, but even when you reach the level of honey pouring over the skin, it is not good enough. There is something else. There's something else and on and on and on until you reach that central core. And it is not surprising that individuals might reach a certain point and say to themselves, "Well, this is fun, but it is not good enough yet and I'm really rather tired tonight. I think I will take a break." And of course, this does happen and it is perfectly fine. It is moved from one level to another and it takes a good deal of energy to move from one level to another. Enough energy to make a leap.

In quantum physics they talk about moving to a higher energy shell. That takes a certain amount of energy and the further up (in a sense of up, or in a sense of the discussion earlier) it takes a little more energy and a little more energy to do. So if you wish to think of it in that way, that is the process you will be going through.

DB:
It almost sounds like the process of getting to the core is wanting that more- to incentivize you to get to the core.

Emissary:
A different way of putting the same idea would be that there is a longing inside for that core. And when you get to a certain point that you thought was the core, and it turns out to be yet another step, then the longing continues. It is … We have spoken before about the energy beings-beingness is a longing. When the consciousness hooks into the energy being in such a way that the consciousness of the individual says, "I want to cooperate in this venture whatever it is." Then that is created for them, that connection becomes a longing. That is how you know it is on track, on path. When you follow the longing and you recognize that whatever experiences you have there is still the longing. You are continuing to go back and back, or in and in, or up and up-whichever direction you choose-to connect with the intention of the energy being. The longing of the energy being. And the concept of becoming one with the intention of the energy being is the same as the search for what you think of as enlightening. At that point you begin to go, "I got it! I understand. I am that." And you no longer have that feeling of separation which generates the longing. So what you are seeking is not necessarily the little things, even the larger things. What you are seeking is that pure connection with the energy being that you are. It is a seeking of consciousness and awareness to intelligence. That's the process. There are no 39 lor whatever levels. It is simply the connection of consciousness, awareness and the energy being or intelligence. And staying in that flow would be what you are perhaps longing for. We are saying "you" we are not speaking just of you, but you and you and you.

So do not give up your search. Of course, it is impossible for you to do. You've been at it for some time now.

[Group laughter.]

DB:
Yes, I have! And I know I'm not ever going to give it up.

Emissary:
The key is in 'what' you give up. If you give up the notion that you will be king or queen and get to a place where that is ok, then that is an ok thing to give up, and it moves you further along. If you give up on things that you know or that you feel distract you from the longing path, the path with heart, then that is an ok thing to give up. The process has a lot to do with identifying and giving up: identify and give up, identify and give up. And so you wander through your life, using the term 'wander', identifying things that don't fit. Do you see? That don't fit. And when you stop holding on to the things that do not fit, then you give them up and you release a great deal of energy that can help to move you to the next level.

Now we are not speaking of giving up on material things. This is not what we are speaking about. We hope you understand this. It is not about poverty. It is not about poverty. It is about releasing those shards of experiences or energies that have become attached to you that serve to drain you of your energy.

DB:
One of my longings is to express myself fully without holding back. But I have a part that holds back because I'm concerned about seeming weird to other people. So giving those things up that are in the way. That would be like releasing one of the shards or the things that do not serve me?

KD:
Or of all the things you could run around trying to accomplish. I've spent the whole day running around doing things I think I should do and at the end of the day I don't have much to show for it.

Emissary:
Yes, those are good examples, and to also return to the idea of expressing yourself clearly or … what was your term?

DB:
Fully

Emissary:
…fully, 100%. To an individual or group and then the fear that they would think you strange for your beliefs. Do you have to give up that fear?

DB:
I didn't call it a fear!

[Group laughter]

Emissary:
Yes, if you look behind that, what you were speaking of, it would lead to apprehension. You do not wish to give this up because they would judge you for being strange. There is that fear.

So what is it that you have to give up? Do you have to give up them? If you speak to them clearly and they judge you as being strange and they go away. Is that one thing you would give up? Would you have to give up the fear so that if you expressed yourself fully to them then maybe they would say, "Oh, that is very interesting." Another possibility. Or is it that you would need to give up the need to express yourself to this particular group in this particular way? It is ok, do you see, perhaps, to create that distance between yourself and that particular group. Just ok. And move on.

DB:
So it could be handled several different ways by giving up several different things.

Emissary:
Yes. Or perhaps what you should give up is the burdensome practice of trying to analyze how that should go – how that transaction should go. From a different perspective, strategically speaking, it might be wise to present a certain face to this group. What is your intention for that group? Maybe you do not need them in your experience? We do not know. The opportunity for such encounters are broad. So there is a way of going about it in which you can create a dissonance for yourself. It is the dissonance that can be given up.

KD:
I have a similar thing. Following the path of heart, I feel like it separates me from a lot of people. Most of the people. I think that is one of the big things that keeps me from fully putting myself into it. Just that alienation. It is so different, in my judgment, it's very different than 95% of the people in our culture are comfortable with. So it seems like choosing a more solitary path.

Emissary:
Yes, it can feel that way.

KD:
And I don't want to be alone all the time.

Emissary:
From the perspective of the warrior, what you would find yourself doing would be to present a face to those that you identify you need. It is important that you do this. Identify the individuals that you need and present to them whatever face it is that you need to present to them in order to maintain that relationship. And let everything else go.

KD:
I think I do that partially.

Emissary:
Yes, you do. It is a matter of developing the habit, the structure, of thinking of it in a different way. Rather than going on from the habit of doing the same thing, and worrying about it. To thinking of it as a warrior.

KD:
It seems disingenuous.

Emissary:
The warrior's life can sometimes be disingenuous in the perception of the others. In the perception of the others. What is important in developing that warrior's life, for you, is being genuine to yourself. That is the important point. And whatever the warrior needs to do to become or maintain that genuineness with oneself becomes part of the warrior's strategy. It is separating from the habit and becoming part of a strategic approach to everyday ordinary life. It is an extraordinary living within an ordinary life for some time. It is not something that is fixed overnight. That is why it requires a continual presence of mind. Continual presence of mind. And it has nothing to do with thinking of yourself as being inadequate. Has nothing to do with that. As long as you feed yourself-anyone, we are speaking to you but this goes for everyone else who is interested-as long as you feed yourself that sense of inadequacy, you are pulling the plug on your own power. So think of it strategically as a warrior's strategy: an extraordinary life in an ordinary living situation. And let everything else go. And over time what you will see is this strategy will begin to develop a new relationship to ordinary reality in remarkable ways that I cannot possibly express to you at this point. But you will see in some cases a change in the milieu of friends. You will see a change in the quality of the relationship of the ones that you are presenting this face to. And you can adjust.

So what you were doing in practical terms, is you are changing the interaction between the others. At the same time what you were doing, and we hesitate to say this, but it is so, you were changing yourself in relationship to the other. Because you have chosen to move with the path that is genuine for you and let everything else go. That is the letting go. If you are doing your chores during the day, perhaps they do not need to be done that way or at that time or even that day. What is the genuineness of the action? And it could be that is the way it should be. But at the end of the day when you look back you will not feel that your day is wasted, because it is in tune with your own genuineness or at least you made a decision that you would do these things even though they did not feel genuine.

KD:
Right.

Emissary:
It is done. It is in genuineness to yourself to make the decision. And at the end of the day you can feel good about yourself and more powerful. Empowered by that. So do not let yourself feel swept away by the activities of the day. Do not let yourself feel swept away. Let yourself fully participate in the flow. It is a different stance. So we are saying to you, do not give up.

KD:
In a way I meant letting go. I feel like I'm in a transition. Usually all my days feel swept away. And now I do have days where I do decide to do these things like go volunteer at the kid's school and present my mommy face to the other little mommies. And I do it so I can see what's going on with my kids, and I think it's important. Sometimes I'm successful and sometimes I'm not.

Emissary:
Yes, and that is perfectly fine. If you go to do this out of a sense of genuineness and you show your mommy face that is a strategy.

KD:
Yes, but it is lonely.

Emissary:
Yes, the warrior's life is often lonely. Do you see?

KD:
But I don't want to be lonely.

[Group laughter]

KD:
Not all the time.

Emissary: [sigh]
The warrior's life is often lonely. But we suggest to you that by pursuing this path, you will find others who also are pursuing at least similar paths and it will be less lonely. It is the beginning that is more lonely because you are making a choice to separate yourself from what you have known and there is no one else there. Just you. That is the lonely feeling. It is something that must be endured in that path. And that is a path that makes sense to you. It is a powerful path for you.

KD:
Yes, that's the choice I'm going to make.

Emissary:
[with some intensity:] No. There is no other choice. No other choice. Because you have chosen that path. And part of that path is that you do not have a choice. There is no way back. Death is right behind you.

KD:
I don't feel lonely this morning.

Emissary:
Very well.

KD:
No, I understand. Thank you.

Emissary:
Yes. Thank you for your openness.

KD:
I don't have a choice about that either!

[Group laughter]

Emissary:
Is the smile perceptible? [referring to himself]

KD:
No, I have my real face on today.

DB:
I can remember feeling very lonely and even family not understanding and not being able to relate to my family. And over the years I don't feel lonely anymore. I did for a long time, but now I feel rich.

KD:
Last night was a particularly bad night. Yes, this is a transition and I'm still in the transition phase.

DB:
It's almost like consciously choosing the people in my life that enhance my life. And letting go of those that need me or suck my energy. Even when that means family.

KD:
That's what's confusing. I've done that with my mother and other people. But with children, and you do love them and you have made a commitment to them to see them through. It's just difficult sometime when you need to do these things for their own benefit. And they are these little shards-these little energy things-hanging on. And they pull and pull and pull and they would pull everything I have if I let them. I'm still working on …

DB:
Setting boundaries?

KD:
Yes, and as they grow and they change, the dynamics are different.

DB:
And I'm still doing that even though my daughter is in her 30's. They're persistent little enemies.

Emissary:
Petty tyrants.

[group laughter]

DB:
Maybe that's part of why they're there. To help us remember to honor ourselves.

KD:
Yes, I went out to get my hair cut and then decided to just go have some dinner. I had a great time. And I got home and … they're still there! Not to change the subject….

Emissary:
….much….

KD:
Yeah, I have a question about allies and spirit guides. Is there a difference?

DB:
and also the energies that visit with us who are not in form.

KD:
There seem to be a lot of them out there.

Emissary:
Yes, allies are a different quality altogether from what you think of as spirit guides and helping energies and those not in form, and so on. Perhaps the best way to describe the difference is to think of a multi-layered existence, multi-dimensional existence, with your own dimension at the top.

[pause] We are getting the image of an ice cream with many layers. A cake perhaps.

So there are many layers of this particular cake of existence. Yours at the top with .. a good analogy… with the filling and the icing on either side of each one of the layers. And the filling and the icing you can think of as beings that have the same basic vibration as the top level but who are shifted out of phase so that you do not perceive them directly. Although four or five are with us here this morning. But be that as it may, they are shifted somewhat out of phase so that they are not really part of your physical existence and they, by their own nature and their own volition and intent, may serve a variety of different functions or services to you. Some may simply be curious and wave in and wave out of their experience of you. Others make it a point to be particular assistance to one individual.

In your past with this one there was the Inner Peace Movement.

DB:
Yes.

Emissary:
They talked about guides and so on. It is this sort of arrangement. There are energetic entities that for their own purposes will assist. You think of them often as helpers or angles or guides, or whatever form makes sense to you, to your metaphor. And they are with you. There are others that simple wander around-to use the term wander again-doing good where they can, where they are drawn. You may think of them as overall helpers, but they are not structured like saints or archangels and these sorts of things. That is an imposition. That is an imposition of that particular church structure, that religious thinking. But there are a number of entities out there who have a variety of different desires. For the most part, they think of themselves, and you may think of them as being good, and some you may think of as being impish, tricksters, the kind that move keys from one place to another. And there are these as well, for you see they are still within the dimensionality of this level, of this layer of the cake. They are within that dimensionality, just shifted a little bit out of phase. There is a great variety of this sort of frequencies in the dimensionality. Let me put it this way, your dimensionality applies to a number of the levels of the cake, but not all.

When we speak of allies, we are speaking of a layer of the cake which is very far removed from what you are speaking of in the top layers, the dimensional layers. The allies are-- and we are using that term because it is a definition you are familiar with, not because that is really their name. The allies are entities that are not a part of this physical reality system, nor are they part of dimensionality. They are outside of all of that. They are a different space altogether. In some contexts, they would be considered Gods. Do you see? Because they are so different that when they do appear within your dimensional space-and they can do that-they have characteristics that separate them completely from anything that you can recognize with your brain. And so what your brain does then when you encounter one of these entities, is it puts upon it a structure from within. So you project onto this entity how you would imagine such an entity to be or to behave. This is why in some times past they were related to as Gods or … [pause] … there is not a word. We will relate to it simply as the Gods for now. And their actions within dimensional space are also non-dimensional. So that they can do things-walk through walls, sink into the earth, fly-whatever they wish to do because they have a different existence altogether. It is remarkable, you might say, that they even appear at all. But at that level, at that non-dimensional, non-linear, non-material space, they have the capability of doing whatever they wish to do. They are not limited by the dimensionality. They are not limited by the physicality. Do you see? And they are aware.

Now, are they evil? Not at all. Are they good? Not at all. There is no dimensional aspect.

So yes, when you encounter one of these beings you may think of them as allies and the sorcerers in that tradition, the shamans in other traditions, the medicine people, medicine men and what Red Bear often calls the elders-there is much to be discussed in regard to that configuration of elders. He is not speaking of elders in a tribe. It is important to keep that in mind. But all these individuals through your times have encountered these beings. And they know of them. They know how to work with them. They know how to negotiate with them. And they know what powers they bring into ordinary physical reality. So yes, allies, in that tradition, or non-dimensional beings, have a direct influence on the development of your dimensional space. They are here all the time.

Are they frightening? Sometimes. Especially if that is your expectation.

DB:
That sounds familiar. In Hinduism it talks about the Gods who live on a separate plane. They have antics they use and they manifest on earth and do particular antics and if they choose they can take you to that place where they live. And they can appear frightening and terrible and they play tricks on each other.

KD:
Sounds like Buddhist Gods too, Green Tara, White Tara. The Gods of Wrath.

Emissary:
Yes, a plethora of deities.

Yes, it is that recognition. Certainly that sort of understanding about the nature of that. Those who think of them as disembodied spirits are somewhat mistaken. It is much more potent than that because they do come from a whole different place.

DB:
So the energies that are out of phase with our dimension-helpers, angles, good guys-are of a different nature than what we're calling allies?

Emissary:
Vastly. It is the difference between a helper and a God. So, you see the discussion about allies or these entities would take some time if we were to fully explore that. And there is a connection with the Eastern as well. The reason that we may have said there is not in the past is because dealing with the Toltec tradition, the Toltecs traditionally took on the negative side and traditionally looked to present them as fearful … not fearful… terrifying. And that was the strategy to maintain the information within those who were initiated. It is quite an interesting tale in that respect as well.

KD:
So in and of themselves, they not malevolent.

Emissary:
They have no such orientation. They are not within dimensional space. There is no good or bad, up or down.

KD:
Do they have intent?

Emissary:
Certainly. If they wish. Yes, there is much more. You can even think of them if you wish, as being a part of your own energy being. Your energy being is not only here or is not only present or existent for beings in form or those out of phase, they have existences in all levels of dimensionality. So that from that perspective it is possible for you to move into an awareness of your energy being and to connect with one of the entities-we're thinking inorganic beings and that is a fairly good description. And in that way connect. It is possible to do it that way. In fact, it is the most likely way that that would happen. Rather than you connecting with the inorganic being of someone else. The connection is too remote. It is a much larger universe perhaps than you had been thinking.

DB:
In our time, there's even a question about is there life on other planets.

Emissary:
Yes, we all know the answer to that.

[Group laughter]

Emissary:
Other questions?

KD:
I'm feeling complete and full.

Emissary:
Very well, we have only scratched the surface. There is some sense of fullness also with this one.

What we would suggest is that you consider pursuing this further in perhaps from Red Bear's perspective. Red Bear may be able to give you a bit more balanced perspective on the inorganic beings than Orin because of Orin's tradition and the vibration from which he originates. You are free to go either way that you wish, of course. But that is our suggestion.

And silence fills the room.

KD:
Yes, I'd like to talk more to Red Bear.

Emissary:
So, there being no further items on the non-agenda, perhaps this is a time to say farewell. And so we will.

[laughter]

Until we meet again, be well.

KD/DB:
Thank you.