Notes
Inheritance of Fear, Dream Body, Energy body and shifting focus into other realities, ecstatic body postures, Trance Dance, Allies and gods.

Session

Emissary:
Good afternoon and welcome. Welcome once again to this place. Do you recall, K, once we were working with Kay and there was a vacuum cleaner in the next room? This is another one of those kinds of days. Several kinds of distractions in the area. So for this one [Gerry] it is a new situation which he can get used to. But for us, it is business as usual. So, welcome again.

We understand that there were a few topics of some interest. Some left over from the previous times when we were together as we were visiting. So where would you like to begin?

K:
I’ve been thinking a lot about what you said about fear and fear of not being good enough. At the time you said quite strongly, “You are good enough.” And that was very good to hear. I’ve been thinking about that in terms of our choices we make and how much of a role choice plays in that. My sense is that I’ve accepted more of that [feelings of unworthiness] than my brothers and sisters and on some level I think it was something I chose to do to learn something. If I think of it as something I inherited from my parents it feels like a victim stance. I guess my questions is how much of a role does choice play?

Emissary:
What we would say to you is that when we are speaking about fears being inherited, we are not speaking in the narrow terms of your thinking of inherited from parents. Think of it this way, it is a part of the reality system itself, the way that you and those others of you within the collective culture have structured the reality system so that fear is a part of the basic building blocks that you begin with. This is not, strictly speaking, from your parents. It is more closely related to being inherited as a member of the human species in general. If you think about it this way, the way that you are structuring the reality system now is you think of yourselves essentially as evolving from other forms throughout an extended period of time, and these other forms relied to a great extent on fear as a way of preserving self, preserving life. Being afraid of the big cats was an important part of getting away from the big cats. And over time this motivation of fear becomes intertwined with the fundamental building blocks of the next generation, and the next generation, and the next generation and so on. You can think about that in terms of millions of years.

Now, this fear you can think of as having integrated itself into the DNA of consciousness. The sub-awareness levels bring up a certain platform of emotions, one of which is fear. And we spoke of several different flavors of fear, one of which is the fear of not being good enough. All this being aside, this is one way of looking at how it is inherited.

However, as we all know, this is just one story. There are many stories about the beginnings of the human race, the culture that you are in, and so on. But it is an accepted part of the culture at this point. What we are suggesting is that from a purely practical point of view, these kinds of fears are not yours. They are fears that you have taken upon yourself, which is a different way of saying inherited, you have taken them upon yourself as part of your, for lack of a better term, incarnating into this time-space structure. That is part of the nature of this time-space. And you have chosen that as clearly as you have chosen the color of your hair, and the color of your eyes, and your parents, and your locale on the earth and so on. These are all chosen. And so part of the makeup of the choosing has to do with that fundamental fear which does, in fact, have some motivating qualities even to this day.

If you did not have concern about whether you are good enough or not, there may be no reason for you to move forward, to seek other levels of work for yourself. Of course, you can do life that way if you wish. We would think of it as somewhat boring. But it is possible to be born into this time-space, never change, and die, remove oneself after as many years as you wish. So that is part of the whole of the package that you choose when you come into this time-space.

Now what is important in that regard is that you at some point along way realize that your feelings of not being good enough are not really yours. You may have chosen them, but they are not part of the You of you. They are not part of that spirit of you. You may think of it as part of the mind-body, it is an aspect of that kind of structure, not the spirit part of the structure. Part of the issue is that the soul, the You of you, becomes combined with the mind-body as a way of functioning within the reality system. And there are many things in this puzzle that the soul, the spirit, works through as part of the learning within the mind-body system. But when you withdraw from that, when you are outside of the attachment to mind-body, the fear is no longer there. It is no longer relevant. There is no such thing.

So when we speak of this, we are speaking only of the mind-body. Fears are a part of the mind-body system, they’re emotions. There is the fear of abandonment as well. It is a fundamental fear. It is played out very clearly within some of your historical stories, fables, and fairytales where the children were left in the woods to fend for themselves. They were abandoned because the parents could no longer afford to have them with them. This is the story.

And if you look at historical references to this time period, you will find that these events did occur. It was at that point, you might think of it this way, at that point where the fear of abandonment re-emerged when it was more quieted in the past.

You see, these fears have a wave to them. They come and they go in importance. So in this time fear of abandonment is not quite as strong as the fear of not being good enough. Because this particular time, this particular societal reference has a great deal to do with achievement. Moving forward, progressing, growing, going up the ladder, and so on. Many types of references to the language also feed into that way of structuring the experience which touches upon that particular fear, not being good enough. If you were trying to climb the corporate ladder and you don’t quite get to where you wish to be, it brings up the fear of not being good enough.

But it is a bogus fear. It is bogus. It is not true. You are always good enough. You are good enough to create whatever you wish. In fact, you are good enough to create not getting to the top of the ladder. Do you see?

K:
I was thinking of it more narrowly.

DB:
The fear of not having enough.

K:
Yes, my mother was orphaned so she had the abandonment thing. And I can see how my mother, the depth of her feelings were like the stones in the water. I still feel the ripples from those events. 60 years ago.

Emissary:
Yes, the ripples.

K:
I can see as a parent that children sometimes want to make you feel better. And I took on that stuff, to make it all better.

Emissary:
Yes, and as an enlightened parent what you can do is recognize is that you are not giving your children your fears. They are not picking them up from you. What your parents reflected for you was that internal base of fear from which they were coming. As a child you interpreted that as part of your own consciousness which brought up that base fear again. As an enlightened parent it is useful to know where these fears come from so that you can share with your children that, “Yes, these fears are there. Many humans feel these fears all the time, but they are not yours.” They are not yours. And so you can counter them with a different kind of emotion. You can counter them by understanding that you are good enough and feel from within how it feels to be good enough. So you counter the fear with a positive strength that comes from the fear. It is the other side of the fear. So you simply turn the coin over and bring that into your life instead and suggest to your children that they do the same. And reinforce it when they do so. So you show them that you understand fear. That it is not theirs.

K:
Yes, I can use that.

DB:
Yes, I can use that in my life right now. I think affirmations are the countering of those fears, showing the other side of the coin.

Emissary:
Yes, as long as you understand where that comes from. Many people use affirmations as a way of thinking magically about things that they want, things that they wish. And to a certain point, the affirmations do work because they do take the consciousness and put a more positive spin to the thinking. Affirmations become extremely powerful when you understand the connection between the emotional existence of mind-body, and the spiritual existence which is connected more directly with the power of spirit, of intelligence as we were speaking of before. So that if one can create and build affirmations for the mind-body by working with spirit and intelligence and imbuing the affirmation with that kind of power, the affirmation itself becomes more powerful and that connection is important as opposed to those that simply write their affirmation and put it on their mirror and see it everyday, and think about it. It is the connection with feeling that’s important. The connection with that spiritual intelligence that makes it work. So yes, what you’re saying is true.

K:
One of my children is more fearful than the other one. And I blame myself for it. And now I’m understanding that that is not it.

Emissary:
Yes, she is more in touch with that.

K:
How do those fears affect the energy body? Do they make it contract, or does it depend on how one reacts to it energetically, or how one’s energy body shapes itself?

Emissary:
You may say so. The energy body is affected by the thoughts, by the beliefs, by certain interactions with others and other elements of the physical space. And so if you allow yourself to be very fearful then your energy body will respond. Now, it can respond in many different ways. It can respond by contracting if that is the feeling of the individual as to the best response to the fear, or the most habitual response to the fear. It also can respond by expanding. If one is in fear of one’s life, for example, the energy body can expand to include awareness of a greater space. Do you see? It is good to know from which direction the big cat will come. And so by expanding ones energy field one can broaden ones perception. So it depends.

The energy body is not as restricted as you might think. It can work in a variety of different ways. It’s not … we are having difficulty with the term… It is not controlled by mind. Energy body is actually more autonomous than you give it credit for. Energy body can be thought of as a thinking, feeling form in and of itself. There is of course a relationship between awareness and the intelligence and the mind and the thinking and all these sorts of things with the energy body, but it is not like a puppet on a string. It has its own volition. So it is not possible to say that fear makes it contract all the time. Although it does quite a bit of the time. It’s a habitual kind of reaction.

DB:
Can mind direct the energy body? I was thinking of tai chi and how it works with energy and running it through and around the physical body. At a Peter session there was talk about spinning and spiraling and I always thought of it as energy.

K:
Vortextual energy?

DB:
Yes, invisible flowie stuff.

Emissary:
Yes, indeed. There is a connection. Now, perhaps there is a way to clarify. When you think of the effect of fear on the energy body, you’re asking the question from a certain perspective, the perspective of mind. Fear is of the mind. Fear is of the mind-body. And so when you ask the question about fear affecting the energy field, the energy body, then there is that kind of answer in that yes they are affected, but also that the energy body is more autonomous. Now looking at it from a different perspective in regard to the way that the energy body fits within the magical universe that you are creating of energy, that flowie stuff. The energy body also reacts to that. So when you are spinning and moving your physical body within physical space, it is also interacting with the flowie stuff of the energy of the space itself so that it is a larger swirl. And this larger swirl does in fact affect the energy body as a part of what it does. If you move your hand through water, it creates swirls behind it. And if you’re able to see the energy field of your hand in the water you would see that there is swirling as well within the energy field as it is affected by, and through, and with, the water. We are speaking only of a more subtle form of energy than water. But there is the same kind of interaction as the body moves through the energy space. When you are speaking also of things like the energy movement created through qigong and yoga and these other sorts of things, you are moving into even more subtle energetic levels in which you can move the energy through your body system. But what I think you will find if you look at it closely is that mind really has very little to do with it.

DB:
Oh, that’s right, it’s more of a feeling.

Emissary:
Yes, mind in its best aspect there simply gets out of the way and notices. So you may think, “I will stand and allow the energy to flow through me.” That is a mind thinking, but the word ‘allow’ moves mind out of the way and the flow can happen and mind simply attends, notices. So in a way, mind does work with this but it is a different aspect, it is moving away, not controlling. When mind steps in to control the flow, the flow does not happen. You can stand all day and tell yourself that you will have the energy move through your body, and if it does move at all it will be quite like mud. Do you see?

So when we speak of the energy body it is not just one thing. It is a reaction and it is an action to whatever is going on within the mind-body-spiritual-environmental-energetic systems. It is all integrated. It is all combined into one larger flow.

K:
Where does the dreaming body fit into that?

Emissary:
Let us examine a little more closely the Toltec view of this. And remember that we will be speaking of the Toltec understanding from a specifically 21st century perception of that knowledge system. And so our view of that is somewhat skewed and we must speak to you in terms of that 21st century knowledge base. If we were talking to you about that from the original viewpoint of the Toltec perception, we would be having a very different conversation altogether. And it may be that some day we will be able to move awareness that way so that we can speak to you of the Toltec traditions from within that metaphor. But we have a ways to go in terms of altering awareness. Now we are speaking to you of altering awareness from that Toltec vision.

So from where we are now, thinking about the dreaming body, it is like this. When you are dreaming, when you are asleep, your mind-body system is suppressed, is turned down. And you move into more of a spiritual awareness. Spiritual awareness has no limits in terms of time or space. And so it can move wherever it wishes. It can create whatever kinds of worlds and situations and realities that it wants to and it can interact with others in the same way. You meet others in your dreamtime all the time, as you do during your daily life, but you are much more aware of it at this level when you are sleeping. Does this make sense?

K:
Yes.

Emissary:
So your awareness then can move and create and interact with other creations so that you are experiencing a whole different world. Now, it is useful to spiritual awareness if awareness has something to relate to such as a body, in this sense a dreaming body. It is a construct for awareness just as the physical body is a construct for operating in physical reality. The dream body is a construct for operating within that dream system and is therefore much more flexible. Now, the dreaming body with experience takes on more and more characteristics that are recognizable based on the attention and the intention of the spirit, soul, whichever you wish to call it in this context. So over time you develop a dream body in the same way that you develop a physical body. It just has fewer limits in terms of where it goes.

So the dream body can move between other reality systems quite readily, and your spiritual awareness, your awareness, takes it with it wherever it goes because it is a useful construct for operating within those kinds of systems. So the dreaming body is no different from the physical body except that the physical body is created simply for working within this hard-edged physical reality system. The dream body is something else altogether.

Now the Toltecs would also say that these reality systems that you are creating or experiencing within your dreams are as real as the physical reality system. And they are. It is simply a matter of how much energy and how much awareness that you are able to place into that system, so that it is possible to take your awareness completely from the physical reality system and move it to another reality awareness. And having constructed that dreaming body there you then are able to move your awareness completely there. And that is what they are speaking of when they say that you can take your physical body with you wherever you choose.

And to push the point even further what they would say, and what they experienced, again in a different context, is that they would vanish from this physical reality system and take all of themselves to another. So at that point the dreaming body would no longer be the dreaming body. They would change places in a sense. The individual would be here and dreaming the physical. So then this is the dreamer and the dreamed. It is a matter of where you place the strength and power of your attention. It is moving the center of awareness and the attention point. What is it that it is called?

K:
The assemblage?

Emissary:
Yes, the assemblage point’s moving to a different level. And once you move it past a certain point, so they say, you completely alter your experience and you become a different person in a different place altogether. This is the way it works for them.

K:
In one of the books I’m reading, the author says she never knows which aspect of her teacher she’s talking to, the physical body or the dreaming double. So the energy body would be associated with the dreaming self and the physical self.

Emissary:
Think of the energy body as being attached to the physical body or the dreaming body. It is not just one thing. Do not be attached to the energy body being one thing or in one location. Energy body can be transmitted, if you wish, to a different location altogether while mind remains. It is quite flexible in its construct, just like the physical.

Emissary:
This one [Gerry] for example, is in an interesting exercise in working with the New York World Trade Center Ground Zero event. Working with several others who are periodically, now daily, sending their energy bodies to work with what you might think of as a tear in the physical reality system. Not as a way of repairing it, necessarily, but assisting in the birthing process. He does not know this, but it is so. It is not repairing, but working with the birthing process of this hole in your reality system. It is an interesting topic but nonetheless he has agreed, and is so doing, to send his energy body once per day to work with these others. He is not there physically. And fortunately for him he is asleep. And he is not there in his dreaming body. Interesting, perhaps instructive that while this one is in this supported state he is neither awake nor dreaming, he is in neither space, but his energy body is working gently with the others in that place. He is not conscious of it.

K:
That’s a whole huge area of conversation.

DB:
I like to think that some part of me is off having adventures like that. I saw the Lord of the Rings and some of the scenes in it captured my heart. Especially Rivendell being so beautiful, peaceful and lush. I wanted to live there. In my quiet time I imagine myself in that place. It is really alive to me.

K:
There’s a group of people, the Seth people, who have been working for quite a time to create a future city that would be a place that would be magical and all those things we would like.

DB:
So is imagination another construct? Beyond mind? But yet imagination seems tied to my mind.

Emissary:
Yes. You can think of it as what you are calling your imagination is a part of mind and part of the exercise of mind can be to create a space in which mind and spirit can get together for a visit perhaps. So when you are speaking of something like sanctuary it is a mental construct. You can imagine the place, the location, the structure or no structure, the contents and so on. It is a mental construct, the intention of which is to create a space for spirit so that when the individual goes there in his or her imagination and opens the door to spirit as well, spirit is encountered in a familiar surrounding. So imagination is a powerful tool. Imagination is communication. When you are creating, your others are co-creating a future city as the Seth people are doing as K has expressed, you are as a community co-creating a sanctuary city in which the community itself can go and have its own place in the universe, it’s own place for spirit. Whether or not—this is important—whether or not this city is ever created, it is real. If it is never created on this earth, it is nonetheless a real construction with the sole purpose of bringing the community of spirit together in a familiar setting. That is one way to do it. There are others.

This one is dying to say, “Have you seen the making of the Hobbit?”

K:
I saw it.

Emissary:
He is dying to point out that that is New Zealand. It is a place specifically chosen for its very new landscape, something similar to what Europe may have been several thousand years ago. And so it does call to humans. It is a new place on the planet. It harkens back to a fairy tale time-space setting and is certainly right for the telling of the story of the Fellowship of the Rings.

DB:
We’ve just had these two movies appear, Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter, that are so magical. I think it’s interesting that culturally it is up for us like that.

K:
The kids growing up get the idea that magic is possible.

DB:
I’ve also noticed shifting reality. I’ll look at a situation, like my sister’s depression, for example. She’s so miserable and I feel bad and want to help. And from another reality of it is that it’s an experience that she’s chosen and she’s going into it deeply and I’m happy that she’s experiencing it to the fullest. And looking at it from another reality, it’s not happening at all, it is just spaciousness and if we look deeply enough, quantum physically, it is just space. So there’s some security in having one view, one way to look at things. And having all these other perspectives seem like it’s shifting reality.

K:
Sometimes I look at people and think, “You think you know the answers to everything—you’re so totally immersed in this reality. ” But once you see that, you see that there are so many possible realities.

DB:
It’s almost like we just choose where we want to put ourselves.

K:
I felt I was shifting when we went to visit Steve’s family. I had to shift my perception to fit myself in to their reality.

DB:
Is this what multi-mensional is?

Emissary:
Well, it is a small slice of multi-mensional.

K:
Does it help you deal with your sister’s depression?

DB:
Yes, it helps me detach from it and not deal in the emotional turmoil.

Emissary:
Yes, and you are also intimating that perhaps it would be nice if there were only one [reality] to choose from so you would know where to stand. But in reality, you are now noticing that there is no one place where you can stand. It is simply find one that you like and choose that one. Then the trick becomes how do you interact with the other from your perception to their perception. And odds are if you were to choose the perception of, “Well, this is something you’re going through,” and celebrate the trauma she’s putting herself through you might get an interesting reaction from the other. Because she is not able to make the same transition. She is very much stuck with the one. And she is really going into it. That is her choice to do right now. That is the tricky part, it is not so much knowing where to stand. You may choose whatever approach you like, it is knowing how to bridge. As you were saying, K, how to bridge from your reality to the in-law’s reality. This one [Gerry] relates as well.

K:
I do feel it is good practice. I went and made myself do it and I wouldn’t choose to go, but it does help me exercise my consciousness and its mobility.

Emissary:
To move between metaphors. Among contexts. Yes, it is good practice. And some choose to go into situations being themselves and experience the clashes of the varieties of systems. And of course that is a perfectly good way of going about dealing with the interactions. There are many different ways to play with it, including, as this one [Gerry] often chooses, avoiding just because it is so painful.

So you are getting good practices in altering your realities. Because whenever you are able to shift into the in-laws metaphor, then you might actually ? a football game.

K:
Actually I did enjoy it. We got out in a 4-wheeler and rode around in a pasture. It was fun.

Emissary:
Practicing flexibility is always a good thing to do.

Donna:
How can the ecstatic positions be used for shifting realities or helping my mind further remember it’s greater consciousness?

Emissary:
This refers to a body of knowledge that is tens of thousands of years old from a time when the reality structure that you are experiencing now was not nearly so rigid as it is now. The reality system of those individuals and groups that over time developed these different postures was very fluid. There was more movement between physical and spiritual, animal and plant, and sky energy systems. So it was much more fluid a reality system than you are now experiencing. And this also harkens back to what we were speaking of before in regard to the Toltec way of knowledge. It is difficult to speak of the origins of this body of knowledge because the reality system is quite different now than it was then. But if you can imagine that an individual was not nearly as individuated from the natural environment as you experience here in this 21st century. And so what the people recognized in a variety of places across the globe for many reasons having to do with the fluidity of the energy—it can happen all over the place at once—was that if you placed the hands in certain ways or if you sit in certain ways, or if your physical attitude is arranged in a certain way, then your inner experience of spirit, that connection, is enhanced in certain ways. Rather like tuning an antenna.

So that when you put your body into these varieties of postures as they are called now, you are tuning your antenna to a certain frequency of the energy of the space, of the spirit. And because there was less rigidity, the energy expanded freely into all the different realms. Now there were certain postures that were discovered—you can think of them as discovered but it was really a matter of fine-tuning to the best possible posture—that the people, particularly the healers and diviners and wise people of the time, began to recognize as being optimum for certain kinds of effects such as healing and divining and finding lost objects and energizing the system and all of these sorts of things. And so when they developed these postures they would tend to draw them as a way of communicating and they would make sculptures, not statues. Sometimes statues but sculptures most frequently that they would use to contain the energy of the postures. So these sculptures and these drawings are not as they are now being thought, they are not totems or art objects, or whatever. They were originally intended to contain the energy of the body within their physical structure.

And so these sculptures, we will speak of sculptures for simplicity sake. These sculptures even now are imbued with a great deal of that kind of energy. And they also communicate to those in your time the postures that when taken, move the energy field, move the body energy field, into a certain tuned state. And you can then experience much of what these early ones also experienced. So it is a deep and rich area for exploration because an individual can put him or herself into that posture and experience for themselves over a short period of time what was felt and experienced tens of thousands of years ago. It is like little time machines. But also the energy created is also useful in this time. We would suggest that it is because of the rigidity of the system compared to then, it is not as powerful, but it is really quite powerful compared to what you are used to. We would say that in the original, in those who originally discovered these postures, there was certainly enough energy to be created to, for example, heal an entire community rather than just one individual at a time. Or to control, literally control, the weather, not just a cloud.

So those times are really quite different. They were really in a formative state where reality was in the process of being defined and quite a strong and powerful point in your history. Of course, you participated at that time or you would not be able to relate to it at all. But in your quiet times, perhaps, you can think of yourself and what was your role in the creation of this space that you call December 27, 2001.

When you think about your past lives, quite often you are too limited in your thinking. And we suspect that part of that is because your reality in those times was really quite different than you can even imagine through the mask of your times. But if you allow your imagination to be wilder and to be more free, you may be able to get a taste of the who you are in those times when literally you were the creator of your environment. Not just as a story, not just as a symbol, but literally a creator of your environment. Is that a sufficient challenge?

K:
The other night at the trance dance a person expressed one of the postures. I’ve noticed a pattern in the movements I end up making. It’s almost like it’s a reflection of the energy. I don’t know if they would correspond to the postures or not. There are certain patterns that I express.

Emissary:
Yes, and it is more and more true as mind can give up the idea of what the dance is about. It is unfortunate in many ways that it is called ‘trance dance’ because it is the dance part in your culture that evokes certain kinds of movements. When mind is thinking, “I must dance” there are certain kinds of movements that tend to go with this. It might better be called, ‘trance flow,’ or something in this regard because it is not so much…. The definition of dance is not correct in this culture. The definition of dance as applied to the trance-generating activity is more what happens to the body when the energy moves through it, not the other way around. So when the energy flows as a result of the mental connection with the music, there is an opening of energy. And if one is flexible enough, able to move mind aside as we were speaking of earlier, the energy moves through the body as much as you might think of as with the qigong, but a little different way. And the energy, the intention of the energy flow is to move the awareness out of this time-space and elsewhere for whatever reason. Trance is basically a turning down, sometimes turning off, of the mental awareness, the mental process, and freeing ones awareness to work with spirit. One way of doing that is through musical interaction so that the body moves, so that the body moves. That is one way. There are many others.

Is this making sense?

K:
Yes. Oh, Gerry said that allies and gods had been on his mind after our last session.

Emissary:
Yes, we have created an interesting habit for ourselves, have we not, of waiting to the end to address a large topic. But what we would like to say in that regard is that his sense of importance of the topic of allies and so on, has directly to do with some of his own personal development now. That is, reaching into other worlds, for lack of a better term. Going into other spaces and bringing a new kind of knowledge forth. We are working with you, as well as him on this. So, it is a worthwhile topic which we can deal with as perhaps purely academic. But we would also suggest that this is the sort of topic which is expressed in an altered state of mind. So this kind of topic can be talked about and also experienced and is best experienced. We are working with this one [Gerry] in different times, different spaces. Sometimes he is not aware. And, by the way, our earlier discussion of his work with the others and the New York situation is a part of that as well. It is an enhancement of earlier experiences which are directly related to the topic of allies and gods. As you say, Donna, it is a very large topic.

But let us give you a, perhaps, a little hint or taste of the quality of that discussion. And indeed we have been talking about it this whole time, just not directly. You recall when we were talking about the dream body and how the dream body can be constructed in such a way as to work within other worlds. Correct?

Now, if you think about it you can take that construct and you can move it beyond what you would recognize as a structure. In other words, the experience of the dream dreamed the dreamed in this case would be so unusual that the experience would not be comprehensible to the dream, the mind. And so the experience of the dream body would be transmitted back to the mind as gibberish. It would not be comprehensible. Therefore the experiences at that range, at that level, would fit into a category of "not human."

Now, that is one level. Not-human might be an experience of animal or tree or rock or something that mind can think about, but knowing how an animal would actually behave or a tree or rock within a dream sequence is a little hard to grasp, but it is possible. If you go beyond that, beyond anything that is known, you get to a place where it is more than gibberish, it is crazy gibberish.

And then beyond that there is another place that is outside of all of what you would think of as organic reality. Beyond the stars, beyond the cosmos, beyond anything that you can imagine. And that in essence is what you can think of as dreaming in the realm of allies.

Now what that story points to is that it is possible for one within this 21st century reality system to dream beyond the organic and into a different realm altogether and because of the connection eventually to bring the two together. So that what one can do is attract, using a different kind of metaphor, attract beings from that realm of reality into something that you can almost perceive in this one. And what you can almost perceive in this one you project onto your own understanding. It is as though you are looking at a completely unknown species of animal that has never been seen before, never even been conceived of before, and has dimensions that are incomprehensible to your scientific minds. And the only way to have any relationship with it at all is to project your own impressions upon it.

And so this is the effect of what the Toltecs are talking about in terms of allies. They are entities that are so incomprehensible that they drop out of all understanding and the only way to interact with this is by creating some kind of story, some kind of surface or some kind of interface with them so that you can even begin to get a hint of what they are about. The allies are then incredible, powerful beings in and of themselves. These characteristics are unknowable. And so they are called allies. Or they can sometimes be called gods or demigods or whatever name you choose to put on them. And the characteristics they show you are the characteristics that are put upon them. Sometimes Apollo, sometimes Zeus, sometimes other characters in your histories. And they have always been there. And they always will be. They are accessible at all times. Why? Because it is their nature. It is their nature to be there. it is their nature to penetrate through all these different kinds of dimensions and be accessible to them all. And as we have said before, they do not have a good or bad side to them except as you put upon them. As you project onto them good qualities or evil qualities that is what they assume within this reality system, within that perception. So this is one of the things that makes allies a very interesting part of the discussion because the fact that they are there makes it possible then to work with allies in a positive way to assist.

So that is a taste. Perhaps there is nothing more to be said.

DB:
I’m needing to leave to go back home so my daughter can officially depart to go back to Dallas. Shall I say my goodbyes or are we at the end of our session? K?

K:
I’m full. I’m done.

Emissary:
We do sense that we have pushed the edge of the envelope.

K:
We may not be able to do the big discussion about allies. Just that little taste of it was a head full.

Emissary:
Perhaps it would be good to write down questions. You have a glimpse. Perhaps if you were to write down your questions it would be helpful. And it could be that there is nothing left to be discussed. Sometimes the topics are all at an experiential level, not necessarily verbal. We shall see. We are feeling that the time is full for now. That being the case, we will take our leave and wish you a very good December 27, 2001. Enjoy your day.