Presence, Authenticity - Part 2
January 30, 2002

Notes
This broad-ranging session covers many issues: Presence, enlightenment, meditation, sound and sounding. Inorganic Beings, non-ordinary reality, schizophrenia.

Session

[My recollection is that Gerry put on the OM CD, and we listened to it for awhile. (kd)]

[????tape was blank from the break until when the tape turned over below…..??????]

Emissary:
You are aware of the sounding of the wind, are you not? How is that different? How is it the same?

DB:
So the sound of the wind is coming from outside of me, it sounds like. And I can imagine allowing that to flow through me like I’m transparent.

Emissary:
Allowing it to create its patterns within your body. And it is as you were discussing true, in so far as there is truth to be gained, that the experience of sound within the body is partially dependent on the configuration, the shape of the body itself, the way that the fluids within the body are distributed, content of the fluid of the body, do you see?

So, there are many points of discussion about this. One of which is the importance of drinking water.

K:
I was just thinking about that.

Emissary:
Yes. And, the clearer the water, the clearer the vibration within the body because of the interaction of other kinds of elements within the fluid. So, there are many things that we will encourage looking further into as far as the way that water, the fluids, the body relate to sound and to light and so on.

So, this is where we sit with the body at this point. So. Let us take one step further out. Imagine if you will that your body is made up of fluid and there is no skin. There is no edge to it. There is no container. But it retains its shape. Is this imaginable?

DB:
Yes, like Jell-O.

Emissary:
Yes, there is an image of a movie. Deep sea diving. The being of water moving through the submarine. You know the one. [The Abyss]

K:
And it projects itself through the water and it comes to look at the people and it has a face on it.

DB:
And it mutates into all sorts of different shapes.

Emissary:
It can. But this is not the analogy that we wish to draw. It is that sense of the body being fluid with no container, but maintaining its form. Then imagine if you will, the room being flooded with water so that you are a fluid being with shape totally immersed in fluid. What would that be like?

And there is the shape of the room and sounds within the room create waves, do they not? Which have the same effect as the sound in the body, following the contours and configuration of the container, in this case, the expanse, the openness of this house, or the room. And so you can experience the sound not only within the body, but also outside. And the sharing of sound from one to the other, even the silent sound. Do you see?

And so your motions with the sounding of your body affects the body of the room. This is another way of looking at as what you think of as energy work.

DB:
Yes.

Emissary:
So, your energy work and sounding is no different. Just a different manifestation. A different manifestation of the same thing. See?

The sound that you were listening to, the OM sound, was intentionally constructed in such a way that it has an effect on the body and also on the physical brain because, of course, the brain is what?…Mostly water, too. And that particular tone has an effect that is releasing in a way. It is not relaxing in that sense, but releasing. It has the effect of letting go. Do you see?

DB:
And it would have that effect on many people, like a blanket.

Emissary:
Yes, more or less.

DB:
And there was a throbbing, pulsating.

Emissary:
Yes, there was a pulsation in it and there were also some voices and that sort of thing. But the magic of it is that particular tone and its effect on, again, the fluid systems, particularly in this case the brain, to have … to offer the opportunity for letting go and opening. Does this make sense?

DB:
Yes.

Emissary:
This leads to the discussion of F# and F# is a tone, sound, that is rather keyed to a particular manifestation of the creation of your level, your part of existence in this time-space state that you are experiencing. F# would be that tone which would represent all of the creative experiences that you have. In that sense, F#, then, is the tone of all that is as you perceive it in this time-space state.

DB:
In making that tone with our voices, bodies, we align ourselves or flow with that. Resonate with it.

Emissary:
Resonate is a good term. [It] brings the body’s resonation into more sync with the resonation of your constructed reality system.

DB:
That makes me think of going with the flow. By resonating with F#, it would be flowing with it.

Emissary:
Yes, going with the flow has a different connotation, but becoming in tune with the reality system as you are creating it has a value of bringing you into sync with everything that you know, and imagine and wish for and experience, everything in the oneness that is your current creation. Current being all times as well. There are, of course, other creations in which F# is not the key tone.

K:
Does that include other times in this physical reality?

Emissary:
Everything that you know, believe, imagine, experience, will experience, experienced, everything that you can think of, everything you can imagine, even that unknown that you think of as unknown is keyed to that tone, F#.

K:
In some of our discussion about allies, that might be a different note.

Emissary:
Yes, that is true to this extent. The inorganic beings, the allies, the others, would be experienced in quite a different way. They would be experienced as no tone. Like a hole. No tone. Hence the difficulty. Do you see? Because they are from a different kind of reality system within the F# spectrum and yet outside of your ability to think of, recognize, or understand their existence. So when we say to you that, yes, they would also be part of the F# spectrum but they would be experienced as no sound, we hope you understand that there is no conflict in that statement.

There is a burning question someone needs to ask.

K:
No sound means we just can’t hear it?

Emissary:
No sound in exactly the same way your black holes mean there is no light.

Perception of these others is unique, to say the least. We were toying with the idea of the others being like a finger poked through the bubble of your perception. It would be something like that.

K:
One would have to expand one’s awareness,in some way that I can’t put into words, to even be aware of the perception that there might be a finger starting to poke through the bubble. It’s so far away.

Emissary:
Not far away, but we understand your meaning. We share the difficulty in description. Although it is possible that you’re getting it.

K:
So outside of the metaphors.

Emissary:
Think of it this way. The reality system that you are experiencing is intricately woven to present to you a perception that is without conflict. And what your perceivers do, your preceptors do, is present to you what you are expecting to see. There is a function of the creation of yourself within this reality system that interprets things in such a way that you perceive consistency. We are struggling desperately to get this idea across. Think of it this way, if there is a tear, someone comes in and repairs it very quickly. Does this make sense?

K:
Yes, our nerves are keyed to patterns.

Emissary:
Yes, but not just nerves. Imagine if you will, and this is not too far-fetched, we are sure. Imagine if you will that whatever it is that you see, we will use sight particularly, whatever you see is actually inside of a bubble. And so as you are sitting in your chair and as you look around what you are seeing is a painting on the inside of the bubble. And everywhere you look there is a painting that presents to you your perception of reality. There is a wall, there is a person, there is a floor, there is a ceiling, and so on. And you see this, but it is painted on a bubble.

DB:
Like a holodeck.

Emissary:
Yes, but we would like to confine it for the moment to the idea of a bubble. Is important. Now, let’s say something happens and just over there there is an anomaly, something that doesn’t fit with the picture you have of what should be there. And it might catch your attention and as you turn there is something that paints it over so that wherever you look there is consistency in your expectation. and perception. Does this make sense?

Now, [for] "ordinary" people (and we use ordinary in quotes), this would be of no concern. The consistency of perception fits perfectly with their goals for their life. And so when this happens they pay it no mind and move right along. Sometimes, however, there are those who are curious about whatever that anomaly was. And they think of it as weird. A strange experience. They may share the experience with their friends, and so on, who are also painted on the inside of the bubble. And so, when little anomalies happen then they are quickly repaired by that function which is supposed to keep everything in perception consistent and intact.

When one experiences odd things and they do not go away, what does that look like, do you think?

K:
I’ve had a couple of those experiences. It’s like a blip in my memory. It stands out against the backdrop of all the other ordinary things.

Emissary:
So you might store that away as a strange and weird experience and add it to your collection of other strange and weird experiences in your memory. What you might also do in terms of perception though, is paint it with something similar. Say, a ghostly figure. It may not be what you are calling a ghost, it may be an anomaly that that mechanism has painted over with a similar perception, a ghost, or ghostly apparition.

K:
Something a little more in line with the ordinary?

Emissary:
Expectation. Something more in line with the ordinary expectation.

K:
In one sense, if enough of those things happen to you, they become part of your ordinary experience.

Emissary:
Indeed. They become part of your ordinary expectation. You perhaps see more and more of these little fellows. And as you also open your perceptions, your belief about perceptions, then perhaps you will see other things that other people report as well. Do you see?

The really interesting question is, what is it that created the anomaly in the first place? Was it a ghost? Or is that your interpretation of it? If it was not a ghost, then what was it?

K:
Non-ordinary perception.

Emissary:
A non-ordinary perception in exactly the same way as an unidentified flying object. They are unidentified. They are unknown. Unexperienced and so on. They are something new. Remember we are talking about your perception, your created bubble, and your beliefs about the integrity of the creation of the painting. Do you see?

It should not surprise you then that in what you think of as your ancient lives, such strict integrity was not so important. So what you think of as your ancestors had these sorts of experiences all the time and they knew more about what it really is than you, at this point in development, are capable of really getting. That’s the issue in dealing with the others, the inorganic beings. It is somewhat of a trap for people in your time. For perceivers in your time.

So, we are certain you are really wishing to get around to the issue of schizophrenia. But think of it this way, perhaps they know more about what it is that causes the anomaly than people in your culture, in your time, are willing to believe in.

K:
That was what my question centered around. It seems like they’re perceiving different realities and they’re more able to do that. And yet the thought of that, of not being able to maintain the integrity of my bubble of perception, is pretty terrifying.

Emissary:
It would mean that you cannot function within your cultural structure.

K:
On one hand you’re seeking out other experiences and on the other hand you’re desperately maintaining the integrity of what you know and not wanting to let anything upset that. So I walk the line in between.

Emissary:
Yes, it is as we said, a trap. It is a desire to let go and a fear to keep everything the same all at once, to control the letting go, which by definition….

DB:
…if you’re controlling you’re not letting go.

Emissary:
Yes, we did not think it necessary to finish the sentence.

K:
Sometimes I think that is the source of a lot of drug use. It does allow you to let go sometimes more than you allow yourself to. The incidence of that in our society is a symptom of people wanting to let go and perceive. And we’re more and more exploring alternate realities. In some ways we are just babies compared to our ancestors.

Emissary:
So much judgment, so little time.

K:
Yeah. I want to open up to perceive it.

Emissary:
Your perception comes from a different experience point. Your experience of that comes primarily to you in dreaming. So you are an experienced dreamer and that is what you do. That is a good thing for you. What you wish to do too, I would imagine {(notice the “I”)-ds} would be to experience more of the excitement of a more loosely structured, less integrated reality system perception. And there are many fears there for you.

K:
Yes.

Emissary:
Is that a bad thing?

K:
It keeps me functional.

Emissary:
That is a rationalization. Is it a bad thing?

K:
No.

Emissary:
Are you sure?

K:
It is where I am right now. And I pretty much have to be where I am right now.

Emissary:
Is it where you wish to be in the future?

K:
No.

Emissary:
Is it where you were in the past?

K:
No.

Emissary:
So you long to be in the past and the future but it is ok with you to be dissatisfied in the present?

K:
I think that is a trick question.

Emissary:
It is a trick answer.

K:
I’m satisfied to be where I am as long as I’m moving to something else. It’s the journey, not the destination.

Emissary:
Yes.

DB:
Is this the shadow people that you’re talking about…where you see them out the corner of your eyes?

K:
That happened to me once. I got this feeling that a being peeked around my right side and put itself right in front of me. It had a face but I think that was more my interpretation of it. It was like a blackness finger or projection that oozed around my right side. The minute I had the awareness that that was what was happening, it was gone. It’s happened twice, I had one in the bedroom at night. I was certain that a male presence was in the room and I thought it was my husband, but it wasn’t. There was no physical being there. I even felt it sit on the bed right next to me. So the openings are there. At this point I’m not able or not willing or too afraid to allow it to come very fast.

{BIG BOOMING SOUND}

DB & K:
Wow! [Laughter]

K:
Then again, maybe not!!!

{Group laughter}

DB:
Just coincidence.

K:
I’m sure. Well, who knows? Who can really say? It matters not.

DB:
I’m also wanting to more open my preceptors. So I think about loosening up my beliefs and perceivers in my head. I feel like there is teeming life all around and I would like to see it. I want to see the filaments of infinity. I desire to have that perception. I see occasional shadow people and I’ve been inviting them and saying, “You don’t have to go away, I’m open to that.” And what we’re doing now, there are other energies present in the room and we don’t perceive them.

Emissary:
And are you interested in perceiving them or seeing them?

DB:
Seeing.

Emissary:
It is important to be clear.

K:
I don’t know if I want to see them. The experiences that I described have not been as scary as I thought they would have been if I heard myself saying this 20 years ago. On some level I’m really terrified about it. Some of that has to do with the readings in Castaneda and the dark filter. But a lot of it is my own fear.

Emissary:
Yes, there is a reason that you picked up on that particular interpretation. It is a mirror.

K:
There’s a lot of it there in the Castaneda books. That’s where I am right now. If I push too hard I clamp down. If I don’t push at all I kind of wander and not much happens. I’m trying to find a balance between opening and being accepting and not expecting and not pushing myself and trying not to judge. But the dreaming seems like it works. I think that’s one reason I’m so into it.

Emissary:
Yes, you have what has been called a very sophisticated mind.

K:
[Laughter]

Emissary:
It is a blessing, and it can be perceived as a curse. No?

K:
Yes, I’ve been there.

Emissary:
Yes, the suggestion that we would give you is not so different than the suggestion that we are giving this one and that is to be true to yourself. If you are judging yourself, be honest about it. If you are rationalizing, recognize it. Just be true to yourself. It is a strategy that will bring you to a recognition to some of the keys to the perceptions. Recognize that these words are being shared not just with you but with this one.

Be true to yourself.

K:
Admitting how terrified I am is hard to say, but that is the truth.

Emissary:
Yes, it is important to tell yourself the truth. Which is what we mean by be true to yourself. There are many ways of looking at that statement.

K:
I just said that to my daughter the other day. “To thine own self be true.”

Emissary:
Interesting how our children are our mirrors.

DB:
Yes, it is pretty aggravating.

Emissary:
That too.

[Group laughter]

Emissary:
But we are speaking from within the context of this one’s experience. So.

So when you are sounding, do it full tilt. Even internally, do it full tilt. Externally as well. Howl at the moon.

K:
I was listening to the OM this morning and compared it to the F# thing we did with the keyboard. It was pretty moving. But this OM here I find even more moving. Even more instantly all through my body and my brain. Whereas with F# it is more of a ramping up, more of an effort to bring myself into it and tune to it.

Emissary:
We will share this with you, and the ‘we’ is not Emissary and this one, the we is the others as well.

We would say through the Peter, that what the F# construct, and it is a construct, is approaching has more to do with the technology of how things are constructed within your reality system. It is, as we said, a key. There is a double meaning there, is there not? It is a key to understanding the technology of your current created reality system and your experience. What you often experience with the OM sound, and the OM sound is not specific to this recorded sound, but also is used in other cultures as a representation of all sounds, of all universes, in all created systems, [is] it has the sense, the feeling, there is no word here… it has the presence of everything. If all of that was combined into one sound it would be very much like the intonation of OM. And it does not matter what key the OM is in.

The key that is used in this particular recording is intended for a particular effect. But there is a similar sound in a similar range that captures what your body and your body-mind and your awareness that exist within the physical linear space, what it recognizes as the vibration of all that is. So for many then, that particular tone is more rich. So we are not saying that F# is wrong. We are not saying that F# is all that there is. We are saying that F# has a particular technological expression within the construct.

There is a great deal about sound. The universe is made up of sound. So to discuss sound would take us into a discussion of literally everything. So what we are stuck with is discussing the effects of sound within certain ranges. The effects on the body. The healing effects on the body and the detrimental effects on the body are worthy on some significant investigation and much work has already been done on this. Not strongly in your culture but in other cultures sound is an important part of everything that is done. We are not speaking of ancient cultures either, that is a whole different area of exploration. When you’re cooking, you are cooking sound. What you are singing while you are cooking influences the cooking of the sounds. What you are thinking in your mind creates sound which influences the cooking. You are experienced with this.

DB:
Yes, that makes a lot of sense. I hadn’t thought about thinking as being sound. But I know that what we’re thinking while we’re cooking influences it. I hadn’t thought of thinking as sound but it makes a direct connection to me. It’s like a physical vibration.

Emissary:
Yes.

K:
When you meet someone, you are hearing their thoughts.

Emissary:
If you are attuned to that, certainly.

K:
Yes, they’re some people you come across and it seems like they’re under a dark cloud.

Emissary:
If you are tuned to hearing the words, you may hear them as they are thinking. If you are tuned to the feeling of them, you are feeling the sound of their thinking. And so they may seem to you they have a black cloud because you know what the sound of that is in terms of feeling. So communication can be thought of in terms of sound. Both heard and not heard. What you are hearing being said, as you already know, is not the whole message. We have spoken and will continue to do so of the communication as being on an energetic level. One way to look at that is in terms of energy being sound and sound being energy. We could also be talking about light. But that would make more sense to beings of light who radiate that kind of presence as opposed to being tuned in to, and having the physical structure for, resonating with sound.

K:
We’re beings of sound.

Emissary:
Yes. “We” are beings of sound.

K:
My kids don’t like to eat what I cook for them. Because I don’t want to be cooking it.

DB:
They get it.

K:
Yeah. And I have to yell at them. I’ll be mad at them as I’m cooking dinner.

Emissary:
If you are mad at them they hear you loud and clear whether or not you are cooking. Little ones are really quite intelligent. In ‘my’ sense of intelligence.

K:
I notice I’ve gotten a lot more picky about what I eat and wonder if I’m picking up on the energy with which the food is prepared. The sound in the food.

Emissary:
Perhaps that is enough to chew on for one day.

DB:
This feels real exciting to me. It’s given me a lot to play with. Thank you for encouraging to do my toning full force. Even at home I do it somewhat subdued.

K:
I like to tone in the bathtub. It seems to be more spontaneous.

Emissary:
So if you would allow us a moment or two before we end the session, it would be appreciated. We will return.

We wish you a fond farewell. Until our next time together, enjoy your day

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Index

Audio Files
The following are recordings from group sessions. Size and length in minutes and seconds is noted. All are MP3.
| About Emissary |
 

July 1, 2008
Emissary Trivia (0.5 MB)
Welcome (0.4 MB)
Individual Probabilities, Possibilities (3 MB)
Group Probabilities, Multiverse (2.5 MB)
Encountering Energy Forms (0.8 MB)
Emissary Ending (112 KB)
 
June 14, 2008
•  Time, the Universe, and Everything
Includes a brief description of "channeling"
(5.1 MB)

Transcripts

February 13, 2002
Experiencing Dimensionally
It is all one message, Cultural projections, the mixed blessings of dimensionality, an exercise in communication with Intelligence.

January 30, 2002
Presence, Authenticity
Part One | Part Two
This broad-ranging session covers many issues: Presence, enlightenment, meditation, sound and sounding. Inorganic Beings, non-ordinary reality, schizophrenia.

January 16, 2002
Healing the Future
Red Bear speaks in this session regarding Medicine People and healing, Healing The Future, "selecting one's tribe carefully," history and the Ancient Ones.

December 27, 2001
Other Realities
Inheritance of Fear, Dream Body, Energy body and shifting focus into other realities, Ecstatic body postures, Trance Dance, Allies and gods.

October 18, 2001
Happiness and "Longing" and
An Introduction to Allies

A wide ranging discussion that includes: fear • happiness • longing as a guide to fulfillment • "Allies," as described by Carlos Castaneda.

October 4, 2001
Healing
The nature of illness • illness, the energy body and projection into the physical • the dying as healers • the role of the healer as an instrument of Spirit.

September 20, 2001
Global Events, Choice, Spirituality,
September 11, 2001

This is the first session held after the WTC/Pentagon events. Global events • "Cliff Notes" version of Emissary's thoughts on existence • creation of experience

September 6, 2001
Consciousness, Awareness, Time
Druidic and Toltec Traditions

This session was held on the Thursday prior to the WTC/Pentagon events.

July 27, 2001
Time, Feeling and Imagination
More on Time vs. Calendar Time • imagination as movement of spirit • states of feeling.

August 24, 2000
Energy Beings
| Part 1 | Part 2 |
An examination of the concept and nature of Energy Beings, of which we are projections and reflections.

August 18, 2000
Time
| Part 1 | Part 2 |
An exploration of the beginning of Time from the "First Distinction" to the present • the nature of time • Calendar Time vs. Time.

October 12, 1999
Personal Session
Time-space states – death – "shamanic work" – reality and imagination as the creative end of perception – childlike maturity. With Kay Shinol.

August 4, 1999
Personal Session
Among the first sessions. Recorded before the solar eclipse. "Creating what you want – Revolution of consciousness – Being authentic"

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